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Animal cruelty, better be a vegetarian !

Started by hartiberlin, April 05, 2009, 05:36:59 PM

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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 11, 2009, 02:04:45 AM
Hi Wilby.

That is a good start, a little vague but a start.

what is it that ensues you, I mean, do you have a preference to life itself, I mean, if you were that old man on the mountain with wisdom, what would you share that could enrich our lives so that we could be prosperous among the few.

I really am a seeker of wisdom and anyone with wisdom is a temple of knowledge.

Ro:12:20
Jerry ;)
life for most of us is an overflowing cup, it is sad that no one notices that fact.
it is not getting what you want, it is wanting what you have got.
know law or no law.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on August 11, 2009, 02:09:44 AM
life for most of us is an overflowing cup, it is sad that no one notices that fact.
it is not getting what you want, it is wanting what you have got.
know law or no law.

Hi Wilby.

I can endure that bit of wisdom, especially the cup, I know proudly of the poor which suffers.  I can only hope. it is all I have, is hope. I teach the things I know for I know not about all things.

2Tm:4:3
Jerry ;)

blueplanet

Has anyone here done any research on colloidal gold?

Colloidal Gold has been used in treatment of rheumatoid arthritis for thousand years. According to my experiments, vegans usually experience the benefits of colloidal gold sooner and more strongly at a given dosage than meat eaters. I have done some tests on a few dogs as well, and, apparently, this applies not only to humans, but also to dogs.

The effects of colloidal gold on vegans and non-vegans have not been well documented in medical literature, but many researchers like edgar cayce echo these findings.


( P.S. I am glad that a lot of FE researchers are vegetarian. This means that we are not the minority in the scientific community anymore. )

Nabo00o

@Bill, as a utilitarian already said, its a choice of choosing the lesser evil, or "lesser bad" if you don't believe in evil :D
Something WilbyInebriated though cannot change by his senseless and of-topic arguments is that we are contributing to the destruction of many thousands more plants by eating the same food as meat, then if we ourself had went and eaten it. So, calling me a carrot killer must make you (WilbyInebriated) not only a cow and chicken killer, but also three-times-giants-carrot-destroyer, if you get what I am saying. Of course I know how you think and don't care, I thought like that a while ago as well. You are materialist, you try to explain everything we observe and feel as just plain chemical reactions, expect maybe for the human motions which you maybe think has a more "divine" aspect to it, truth is you aren't sure, right?

Plants, animals and humans (which is partly animal) is all 'living beings'.
This is not something created, this is not something initiated by randomness, but something that have always existed. I am not saying that plants and animals are worth less, we are all actually equal.

But to take the physical life from a being is not the same as to fundamentally kill it, that is impossible.
So it becomes a question of how we can cause the least amount of pain to a another living being in order to live and exist as human beings. Plants are both less sophisticated than animals and does most probably not have the same kind of advanced sensory organs for pain as animals (although as experiments have proven, they can be aware of it). Pain is only useful as a tool to our bodies if we have a chance to remove the cause of that pain.


@utilitarian, how come you have been here for so long and not yet found the free energy?  ;D
I think it has at least something to do with how you choose to confront possible evidences.
If you want I can give you more than enough proof to convince you, this is just stuff I have found over the year and half I've been into this  :D

Bye all, and eat well ;)
Julian
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Nabo00o on August 11, 2009, 05:06:02 AM
Something WilbyInebriated though cannot change by his senseless and of-topic arguments is that we are contributing to the destruction of many thousands more plants by eating the same food as meat, then if we ourself had went and eaten it. So, calling me a carrot killer must make you (WilbyInebriated) not only a cow and chicken killer, but also three-times-giants-carrot-destroyer, if you get what I am saying. Of course I know how you think and don't care, I thought like that a while ago as well. You are materialist, you try to explain everything we observe and feel as just plain chemical reactions, expect maybe for the human motions which you maybe think has a more "divine" aspect to it, truth is you aren't sure, right?
please explain how i am off topic. i am offering a different opinion than yours...whaaa
you have no idea how i think. to suggest you do is asinine. i am not a materialist and 'truth' depends greatly on your point of view...

Quote from: Nabo00o on August 11, 2009, 05:06:02 AM
Plants, animals and humans (which is partly animal) is all 'living beings'.
This is not something created, this is not something initiated by randomness, but something that have always existed. I am not saying that plants and animals are worth less, we are all actually equal.

But to take the physical life from a being is not the same as to fundamentally kill it, that is impossible.
So it becomes a question of how we can cause the least amount of pain to a another living being in order to live and exist as human beings. Plants are both less sophisticated than animals and does most probably not have the same kind of advanced sensory organs for pain as animals (although as experiments have proven, they can be aware of it). Pain is only useful as a tool to our bodies if we have a chance to remove the cause of that pain.
i get what you are saying. your convoluted wordings grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. between depriving a man/animal or plant of one hour from its life and depriving it of its life there exists only a difference of degree. you have done violence to it, consumed its energy. elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another thing the ultimate assumption remains: "i feed on your energy."

you are aware that vegetarian dishes are not entirely vegetarian... vegetables, boiled or not, contain dead bacteria. not to mention that fruits and veggies are pretty much 'plant roe', and that's disgusting, eating the ripened ovaries. it's plant infanticide.

edit: was it defeat to choose a 'lesser evil'?

gen 1:26
wilby ;)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe