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Animal cruelty, better be a vegetarian !

Started by hartiberlin, April 05, 2009, 05:36:59 PM

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Pirate88179

Well, some bad news.  Plants have been proven to display emotions too.  they have done many experiments where two plants are in a room hooked up to some meters.  A guy in a black gown comes in a rips one plant out of the pot and tears it to shreds.  The other plant reacted on the meters with some intensity.

Then, the clincher, the same guy walked back into the room after the meters had settled down (wearing the same black cloth) and the surviving plant went hysterical on the meters once again without anything happening.

Just food for thought.  (No pun intended...well, ok, maybe a little one.)

Bill
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WilbyInebriated

Quote from: utilitarian on August 10, 2009, 10:48:19 PM
Many animals display emotions similar to ours in certain situations.  They protect fellow herd members, mourn the loss of a child, and so forth.  You really should read up on the behaviors of elephants, wolves, dogs, apes, and so forth. 

It would be absurd to assume that we humans evolved with all of our emotions completely unique to our species.  It is much more likely that the emotions we have are ones that have evolved from lower animals.  So it is quite likely that the animals we feast on feel at least a portion of what a human would in a similar situation.
speaking of 'reading up' you should be taking the advice you offer, it would help you to keep your foot out of your mouth.

an animal may make certain movements and sounds, and show certain brain and chemical signals when its body is damaged in a particular way but can you show irrefutably that an animal feels (is aware of) pain as we are, and is not merely programmed to act a certain way with certain stimuli? no you can't, so 'go spit' with your usual assumptions.

thanks bill. i love it when utilitarian opens his big mouth and sticks his foot in there. how he does it while he has his head up his anus amazes me even more. that was better than when he "bet the farm"...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on August 10, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
and besides meat is friggen awesome tasting.

Cyanide is sweet to the tongue and smells like sweet almond blossoms, so what is your point?

not everything that tastes good is good. besides, if we had some other means of avoiding harvesting of food to feed our selves I would probably check it out. I really do feel healthier being a vegetarian but if there was an easier way I would probably being doing it.

besides, if you was to throw God into the picture then how many follow his/her rules of eating food? there are reasons why certain foods were mentioned not to eat.

people will be people I guess.

Jerry :)

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 10, 2009, 11:13:45 PM
Well, some bad news.  Plants have been proven to display emotions too.  they have done many experiments where two plants are in a room hooked up to some meters.  A guy in a black gown comes in a rips one plant out of the pot and tears it to shreds.  The other plant reacted on the meters with some intensity.

Then, the clincher, the same guy walked back into the room after the meters had settled down (wearing the same black cloth) and the surviving plant went hysterical on the meters once again without anything happening.

Just food for thought.  (No pun intended...well, ok, maybe a little one.)

Bill

this has been known for about 30 years, I am a vegetarian because I chose what was to me the lessor evil, there is nothing else to my knowledge to avoid it.

look, I like Hamburgers, I just chose not to eat them.
jerry

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 11, 2009, 12:53:37 AM
Cyanide is sweet to the tongue and smells like sweet almond blossoms, so what is your point?

not everything that tastes good is good. besides, if we had some other means of avoiding harvesting of food to feed our selves I would probably check it out. I really do feel healthier being a vegetarian but if there was an easier way I would probably being doing it.

besides, if you was to throw God into the picture then how many follow his/her rules of eating food? there are reasons why certain foods were mentioned not to eat.

people will be people I guess.

Jerry :)

just like my farts!! neat!  ::)

of course you would. you, just like the rest of us, are lazy and opportunistic.
i subscribe to: if it feels/tastes good, do/eat it...

there is no god, so what is your point?

taking life is taking life. period. there is no "lesser of two evils" because there is no such thing as 'evil' except in your mind. i repeat, it is a human construct.
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe