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MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??

Started by magnetman12003, April 17, 2009, 12:14:35 PM

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BEP

Yes, rotor and stator - one odd, one even.

I take it the idea does not work without the steel at the end of the rotor elements or without the loop.

I'll be trying this in the morning.

FreeEnergy

Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 18, 2009, 09:22:42 PM
3 more iron segment gates should do it.   Making them now.

wow looks promising.
so did it work?

The Nephew


Earl

Hi Tom, hi BEP,

interesting idea.

Should anyone get this to continuously turn without slowing down, I would like them to try the following supplemental experiment.

In the attached image, the green line is a thick copper wire forming a continuous, low-resistance loop.  This loop functions as motor coil as well as alternator generator coil, depending upon the angle of rotation.  To be used on all stator assemblies.

The operation would depend on the "Wechselwirkung" of this loop, sometimes acting as generator coil, sometimes as motor coil, and most interestingly doing this with no commutator.  I believe that the apparent simplicity is deceptive.  As soon as the rotor turns, the operation is much more complicated than it seems.

Note the RPM with and without this supplemental coil loop.  Also do a test where the steel wire is insulated from the (nickel-plated ?) magnets by a thin layer of teflon (or other) electrically non-conductive tape.

In other words, three experiments:

1- steel wire acting as magnetically and electrically-conductive loop

2- steel wire acting as magnetically-conductive loop only, electrical loop broken open

3- low resistance copper loop physically overlaid on steel wire and magnet stator assembly  (repeat for both conditions 1 and 2 above)

The above experiments would greatly help in understanding this device, should it function and be reproducible.

Earl

edit:  one might also try a copper loop with 10 or even 100 turns, centered-taped.  Center tap goes to scope ground, 1:1 hot lead goes to a tap say at 25% and 75% of winding (2-channel scope).  Try to get a look at voltage generated in this loop versus rotational position.  In this case, steel wire electrically insulated to prevent any electrical loop for it.

Quote from: BEP on April 18, 2009, 09:11:24 PM
Interesting. Thanks. I haven't seen this before.
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Earl

Another experiment to try:

The steel wire must be electrically insulated from the magnets with thin tape such that the steel wire is magnetically conductive, but not electrically in a closed-loop.

Then try copper wire overlay as shown in the attached image.

The two independent copper loops have no galvanic connection to each other nor to anything else.

Edit:  all copper loops must have low resistance, no sloppy cold-solder joints allowed !!!

Earl
"It is through science that we prove, but through intuition that we discover." - H. Poincare

"Most of all, start every day asking yourself what you will do today to make the world a better place to live in."  Mark Snoswell

"As we look ahead, we have an expression in Shell, which we like to use, and that is just as the Stone Age did not end for the lack of rocks, the oil and gas age will not end for the lack oil and gas, but rather technology will move us forward." John Hofmeister, president Shell Oil Company