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The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)

Started by g4macdad, April 18, 2009, 06:25:56 PM

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electricme

Hi guys, I hope I not too way off the thread.

Ha ha, I have to laugh, the fuel companies just love it when we all verball off to each other, their promotion industry is still going strong, and most people really haven't caught on to the following fact.

Fact is, they get all cars to be built so the tank holds enough petrol to travel for about 6-7 hundred kilometers, and so the family car has to be refuelled once a week.
Soooo people have been conditioned over the years that electric vehicles need a battery capacity to hold the equivalent in kilometers.

This is a lot of hooey. Wake up everyone, take another look see.

People have also been conditioned that a vehicle just has to have an acceleration from 0 - 100kph in certain seconds, the electric car can do this, its just been suppressed, that's all, but once again, who wants to strain the engine and drive chain just to brag his vehicle is better than the others.......

Who really drives the charriot? the wife does, and where would she drive to, the local shop.
In most cases this is the local supermarket, generally about 10 ks away down the road, then knowing how careful my wife used to be in conserving where she drove, she would work out very carefully to make sure she would not double back (wasting petrol), so the weekly shopping trip would take about 50ks at the most.

Then there was the days the kiddies went to skool, another 10k around trip, then there is the little unforeseen trips to buy a loaf of bread or milk some emergency came up, or to visit a friend, all small trips, never getting above the speed limit.

One overnight recharge would top off each of the daily trips around town, and it would be cheep at that, a lot more cheeeeeper than the weekly top up with gas, diesel or petrol.

We are led to believe we need a huge battery capacity for 700 klms, bah hooey

Lets consider the Diesel Electric locomotive, this thing has a whacking big diesel engine in it, its sole purpose is to drive a generator, that's it, nothing more. The engine runs at a constant rpm (most times), but the fact is, this generator is so powerful it can pull a train consisting of thousands of tons, a very long way indeed.

Soooo why did trains switch to diesel? why didn't they use the existing steam engine to drive a huge generator, just as a coal fired power station does? Driver comfort, less heat, not as much manual work to do and the fellas selling diesel said it is a good move to the gov.

So what am I getting at? electricity has more to it than petrol, but if we don't get on to making electric powered cars, then after the petrol runs out it will be too late, just get a horse and buggy.
There is a problem there tooo, how many horses will there be available? do you know the slightest thing in looking after a horse?

So what are councils and governments doing about this? nothing.
They have their hands in their pockets, they are asleep at the wheel, they will all say "we didn't know that this was going to happen" when petrol runs out, and it will, where will the food come from? the shops I hear you say, ha ha, but there is no fuel to run the trucks.

So no fuel equates to people starving because they can't go and buy food to feed themselves.
No fuel means the food will rot on the trees and in the paddocks, eventually, no fuel means no crops will be planted, this is a big can of worms.

No fuel means people cannot go to work, no work, no jobs, no jobs = no wages, no wages no food.
YOU DIE.
Because you die, you don't pay taxes, then the gov says, oops we made a mistake.
We should have had a backup system to keep the system flowing. Tooooolate.

There would be a big exoduses as people move out to the food bearing areas just so they could exist.
How many people make it out to the country, on shank es pony (walking), not many.

No modern country in the world has made any emergency plan to cope with no fuel.
In our country Australia, in Brisbane, we had trams, then the head honcho decided it would be a great idea to toss them out, so he did, once most people just hopped on a tram and got about, it was clean energy, a good safe way to travel, now we have the monster car problem.

If fuel dries up in Australia, all I see is big trouble, and bad at that, yep, bring back the electric car, truck, make all railways electric, double the tracks or bring back the old steam train.

Carbon credits, ha ha ha, what a lot of hooey, one volcano puts that theory to grief, oh if only people would wake up and get involved in free energy and read all the forums here.

jim



People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

ewitte

While 700Km is not neccessary I can still easily drive 150 miles in a single work day. If I get sent to the ranch thats a 600 mile round trip.  With a 40mile EV range I would have to stop 15+ times!  My "mild hybrid" can get about 650-690 under perfect conditions (600 under good conditions).

electricme

@ ewitte
Excellent point you have below.

Quote from: ewitte on October 23, 2009, 09:30:05 AM
While 700Km is not neccessary I can still easily drive 150 miles in a single work day. If I get sent to the ranch thats a 600 mile round trip.  With a 40mile EV range I would have to stop 15+ times!  My "mild hybrid" can get about 650-690 under perfect conditions (600 under good conditions).

well what can I say? here is the answer we all are after, if you had posted this answer to Tesla, he would have just grinned at you and said, borrow my car, the one that runs on "nothing", I drove it around the countryside the other day, all day long, this is what you need.

Ha ha, that is a tongue in cheek answer, but until we get to that position, 50 klms is about what we are left with.

jim



People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.