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Overunity Machines Forum



The ever elusive magnetic motor

Started by billmehess, April 22, 2009, 10:49:31 PM

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billmehess

I wish I could report progress, but I can't. You really have to work with one of these to see why they most likely will not work. Before a magnetic motor will work there must be some way to introduce additional energy into the sytem to over come the magnetic gate. That is the problem.
What I was doing was pushing the rotor assembly through 7 revolutions and seeing if the rotor would continue to run. In the final analysis even though I did see acceleration as the gate was breached each time I was only seeing basicly a sine wave effect with a ever decreasing amplitude.
Eventually it will slow down a stop. Fun to work with though, thanks for your inquiry.
Bill

Low-Q

Quote from: billmehess on October 01, 2009, 11:44:56 AM
I wish I could report progress, but I can't. You really have to work with one of these to see why they most likely will not work. Before a magnetic motor will work there must be some way to introduce additional energy into the sytem to over come the magnetic gate. That is the problem.
What I was doing was pushing the rotor assembly through 7 revolutions and seeing if the rotor would continue to run. In the final analysis even though I did see acceleration as the gate was breached each time I was only seeing basicly a sine wave effect with a ever decreasing amplitude.
Eventually it will slow down a stop. Fun to work with though, thanks for your inquiry.
Bill
Have you tried electricity?

Vidar

billmehess


Low-Q

Quote from: billmehess on October 01, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
Are you serious?
Well, there is at least one thing you must do, which is to force the magnetic field to temporary collapse at the right time. I can't see so many other ways than using electricity through a coil to make that happen. To collapse a magnetic field temporary, you sort of "steal" or "borrow" energy from the system, just to give it back later when it benifits the rotation or motive movement in the system. There is however loss as friction that probably will stop the system from running.

billmehess

Quote from: Low-Q on October 01, 2009, 04:45:09 PM
Well, there is at least one thing you must do, which is to force the magnetic field to temporary collapse at the right time. I can't see so many other ways than using electricity through a coil to make that happen. To collapse a magnetic field temporary, you sort of "steal" or "borrow" energy from the system, just to give it back later when it benifits the rotation or motive movement in the system. There is however loss as friction that probably will stop the system from running.
Well you can do this with a electromagnet but the idea of a permanent mag. motor is to use  only perm. magnets. Introducing a outside electrical input defeats the purpose.
Paul Sprain tried to do this when he used a paulsing system to kick the spinning rotor past the gate, but the failure of all these approaches is that it uses more energy than what is created so what is the point?