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Overunity Machines Forum



Cooking with HHO , my experiments so far

Started by jdcmusicman, April 23, 2009, 01:58:12 AM

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triffid

Dear JD,you are the first to tell me that baking soda creates CO.But not the first to say it eats up the plates.I have heard of a soap solution once before being used as an electrolyte(automatic dishwasher soap).They changed the name.It was electro-lux I believe.Any way your experiments so far caused me to have a dream.I dreamed that someone started up a magazine called"HHO TODAY" and there articles and interviews in the magazine.So I was sad to wake up to find out it was just a dream.Nevertheless,I thought it was funny to have a dream about HHO When I never had dreamed about it before.To be honest the baking soda would have to be used up to release any CO.It would have to be broken down.And I had never heard of baking soda breaking down while in use for electrolysis.I know about the plates being eaten up so no arguement there.I figure just use cheap replaceable metal like wire coathangers.It took me watching your videos to trigger a dream about HHO.
So keep up the good work.You never know when a big breakthrough will occur.Triffid

triffid

JD,after my last post here I realized the most voltage I have pushed through a baking soda solution is 18 volts DC.But you are working with much higher voltages(115volts).I have not done anything with baking soda soln at 115 volts.But I have done a lot with 18 volts and less.Really the ideal voltage is about 1.25 volts per cell or just a little bit less(1.12 volts).So I was never in a hurry to use household voltages.Triffid

Mark69

JD,

I started watching your videos, I like your safety valve idea on the bubbler.  I have a bunch of questions if you don't mind answering.   Where did you get the neopryne gasket material you use between the plates?  Is there a reason you used 304 stainless instead of 316?  How is your cell wired; positive at one end and negative at the other or every few plates did you alternate a positive and negative?  What size hole did you drill into the plates?  Are your end plates material better then using acryllic/plexiglass (can handle higher heat?)?  If they do handle heat better, where did you get that material from as well?

Thanks,
Mark

Definitely like the idea of using the output stream to run a wheel to turn a generator!!!  genius!!!  Looking forward to video on electrical info.

jdcmusicman

@Triffid
Although I am using house current , I have never use baking soda in a big cell , only in 12 volt applications , and my  per plate gap voltage is always between 1.9 and 2.5 volts per plate gap..
My big cell is 72 plates , I have only have 2 connections ...
I have also so found that the sweet spot for my cell or any cell that i have built is 2.03 volts per plate gap..
I get the highest electrical efficiency at this voltage ....

@mark
I got the neoprene rubber off ebay from a guy named rubbermann7 .
I use 304 or 304L because it is cheaper , but the reason is I only have 25 dollars in the steel in my big cell, I got it from a recycle center , I only get stuff that is marked that way I know what I am getting..
I also not had any problems using 304 ,my electrolyte stays clean ..
I only have 2 connections one + one - ..
The hole size in my plates are 3/8"
I don't use acrylic because it expensive and plus its not compatible with sodium hydroxide ..
My end plates are Super High Density Polyethylene  1/2" cutting boards
Heres a link for them :
http://www.cuttingboardcompany.com/cuttingboards.asp?id=1

Thanks
jdcmusciman

triffid

For those of you wanting to go cheaper,thrift stores and garage sales are a good place to haunt.Just take a small magnet with you to select high qualiity stainless steel(magnet will not stick ).Cutting boards turn up too.I haunt these places too and see lots of possibilites.If you want to save time and have plenty of money garage sales and thrift stores may not be for you.I usually have more time than money.triffid