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Magnetic Vortex Motor

Started by eavogels, April 26, 2009, 03:40:34 PM

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hartiberlin

Quote from: nyctuber on May 21, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
No, of course it doesn't. It's just lateral movements of the ring on a moving holder, just like the silly ball and hand held magnet ring. They chase the ball around trying to keep it spinning, and thereby apply propulsion.  The string also winds up and releases.

No,
that is not the case in the last video URL I posted.
It seems to be working due to eddy currents.
It has nothing to do with the string !

Too bad that I am currently not at home,
where I have some magnets to try it.
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hartiberlin

Quote from: eavogels on May 22, 2009, 12:43:12 AM
Since from the start, the ring and the magnet already have stretched the rope, the rope untwisted outside the camera picture and therefore the ring AND the magnet are in rest. When he releases the ring, it get so much lighter and so see the ring turn in the other directing, since the rope is twisting again.

Eric.

Are you sure Eric ?

With what rope or string did you try it ?

Maybe you can again post a video with the thing hanging
on a static stand holder ?

Please use a non twisting fishing line or a small
copper wire or something like this.

Many thanks.
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exnihiloest

Quote from: eavogels on April 26, 2009, 03:40:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmrQozyz3Y

Not mine, I just found it on YouTube.
/Eric

Hi All,

See also:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor

I just ended a duplication of this effect (which is real and funny) and here is the conclusion of my tests.
The suspending wire is a sewing thread. Such a thread is constituted by several strands wrapped around each other.
When the ring is attracted by the magnet, the tension of the thread makes the torsion of the strands to produce a torque that spins the ring.

This is confirmed by the following facts:

- when you attach a weight to the ring, simulating the same force as the magnet produced, the ring rotates without magnet (naturally not so quickly than with the magnet, due to the inertia of the weight attached to it)

- when you use a single strand, the ring doesn't spin over the magnet.

- it is not a question of current: when the ring is open, the ring still rotates (assuming a thread with multi-strands).

- it is not a question of magnetic field: the direction of the rotation doesn't depend on the orientation of the magnetic field but depends on the direction in which the strands are wrapped in the thread (clockwise in my case).

So it's not at all the way for FE. I have quickly debunked this scam of "Magnetic Vortex Motor" or "Swiss Ring Magnet Motor" (as called at Peswiki) because I am afraid it becames as time wasting as Mylows's story...  :-)