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Latest: No back torque generator.

Started by broli, May 01, 2009, 09:04:43 AM

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BEP

Quote from: lumen on May 11, 2009, 11:03:45 PM
You are just going to make me get the test rig out and hopefully prove myself wrong!

@lumen

Please do. Not to prove yourself wrong. Think of it with expectation to see the reality of an HP generator.

A rather nutty old friend of mine once put it this way: The magnetic flux is like a bowl of Jello. Stick a pencil in the middle and spin the pencil. Does the Jello spin? NO you friggin' idiot! Your G.D. magnet is just a grape suspended in that Jello. Move it and the Jello just adjusts for the presence. Spin it and the Jello doesn't spin. Spin your f'n homopolar motor. It doesn't work by induction anyway!

That was in late '79 and he was talking to me. He also retired from NASA last year.


I know how much you all love stories  :)

gravityblock

Quote from: BEP on May 11, 2009, 11:26:55 PM
@lumen

Please do. Not to prove yourself wrong. Think of it with expectation to see the reality of an HP generator.

A rather nutty old friend of mine once put it this way: The magnetic flux is like a bowl of Jello. Stick a pencil in the middle and spin the pencil. Does the Jello spin? NO you friggin' idiot! Your G.D. magnet is just a grape suspended in that Jello. Move it and the Jello just adjusts for the presence. Spin it and the Jello doesn't spin. Spin your f'n homopolar motor. It doesn't work by induction anyway!

That was in late '79 and he was talking to me. He also retired from NASA last year.


I know how much you all love stories  :)

That is a good story, but stories don't always tell the whole truth.

Somehow when the electrons spins are aligned causes this jello to move.  If the jello didn't move, then you wouldn't have a magnetic field that is outside the presence of the magnet or outside the presence of the electrons.  These electrons are capable of moving this jello when their spins are aligned.  If they didn't move the jello, then their would be no external magnetic field.

If a fan didn't cause the air to move, then you wouldn't have air flow or an external force.  If the electrons didn't cause the aether to move, then you wouldn't have a magnetic field or an external force away from those electrons.

The reverse is true also.  When the jello, magnetic field, or aether moves, then the electrons move.

I don't like sour grapes.   ;D
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: lumen on May 11, 2009, 11:03:45 PM
So you can see that any conductor running from the center of the magnet towards the outer edge would cut all the lines of force leaving the face of the magnet, then again as the force lines curve to reach the other side of the magnet.

The conductor disk has nothing to do with cutting through the lines of force, but has everything to do with how the electrons in the conductor are cutting through the lines of force.

Don't forget the conductor disk will be following an orbital path through or with (where the field isn't changing it time) those lines of force .  The question is does the electrons in the conductor follow a parabolic path from the axis to the rim or a more circular path towards the rim?

Why does the homopolar generator produce high current with low voltage?  Could it be how the electrons are cutting through the flux, more parabolic path or more circular path?

I don't think I'm very helpful here.  This is one area where the text books have failed miserably, and this definitely needs more research.  I'll being doing some experiments soon to answer some questions that have never been raised surrounding the homopolar generator.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

broli

Gb, the reason a hp motor produces high current is due to the very low resistance. The whole disk is a very good conductor with very little resistance.

To get to your second point. Instead of thinking how the electrons bend (which is an interesting question anyway) you could just simplify the experiment. Below you see this. Instead of using a disk you use a hoop and a single wire going to the middle. Now you are absolutely sure on the path of the electrons.

scotty1

Still going.. ;D

I think some people here should read Tesla's notes on unipolar dynamo's....and also his dynamo patent.

"The armature current tends to set up a magnetization at right angles to that of the field current, but since the current is taken off uniformly from all points of the periphery, and since, to be exact, the external circuit may also be arranged perfectly symmetrical to the field magnet, no reaction can occur. This, however, is true only as long as the magnets are weakly energized, for when the magnets are more or less saturated, both magnetizations at right angles seemingly interfere with each other."

Nobody talks about that!!

" Again, the facility with which such a machine may be made to excite itself is striking, but this may be due â€" besides to the absence of armature reaction â€" to the perfect smoothness of the current and non-existence of self-induction."

Instead of subdividing the disc or cylinder spirally, as indicated in Fig. 4, it is more convenient to interpose one or more turns between the disc and the contact ring on the periphery, as illustrated in Fig. 5.
http://www.stardrivedevice.com/Tesla_notes.html
And
Dynamo Electric Machine... Pat No 406,968

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I've done many tests to show the field does not rotate with the ring magnet.
Even a vertical ring magnet over a horizontal spinning one, will not feell the rotation of the horizontal magnet.

When the copper disc and the magnet all spin....then the copper is cutting the flux because it is stationary!!!

The more experiments I do the less I agree with the atomic domain theory...if that were true then the field should rotate at the same speed as the magnet metal.
Electrons have to move with atoms which move together with the mass.

Also...If I were to put a coil over a horizontal ring magnet, so that the coil core was parallel to the magnet (between the inner and outer dia), and spin the magnet up...then, If the field rotates with the magnet, I would see a voltage rise in the coil AS LONG AS I INCREASED THE SPEED OF THE MAGNET. but it's not so!!!
We know that is true because if we pass a magnet over a coil slowly we get little current, but pass the magnet over faster and we get more current...because the time is important  ;)

When I get time  ;D I'll record some more clips for you tube.

Scotty.