High volume gas production at 12,6 Volts and 10mA !

[Magick]

thats an interesting thought. I wasnt aware that microwave ovens were designed to that frequency.

however microwave ovens only heat water, they do not facture it into hyrdogen and oxygen. I believe there are other frequencies which could fracture water quickly using little ampage.

I also theorize that this process could be made even more effecient through the use of harmonics.

As to what these harmonics are I cannot say. I have yet to experiment. But I do believe the answser to effeciently getting energy from water is in frequency and not in voltage.

[JohnInCT2006]

" frequency and not in voltage "

humm...
Too bad these guys didn't use water.

http://ds1.thatvideosite.com/streamvideo.wmv?id=2289&filename=cmVzb25hbmNlX3NxdWFyZS53bXY%3D&key=1147179023

Frequency square test. Not related to H2 production, but it's an idea.

[BushWacker]

Hello to Magick and John in CT,

     First I want to say thank you John, for providing that link to the frequency vid. This is a very good visual example of how sound/frequencies affect various material mass, and this may help some folks to be able to perceive the concept of what we are talking about here.

Secondly, Magick, I believe that you are correct in your perception about harmonics and resonant frequencies having the potential to disrupt and/or reorder mass to the extent that very little electrical current might be needed to produce what some of us refer to as "Flash Hydrogen" from H2O.
During the time that our acting engineer had been running tests on the HOPE unit that I had sent him, he reported to me that at certain frequencies many of the metal objects nearby would either be instantly transformed into fine powder or would fracture into millions of tiny pieces. I have had my own experiences while researching the HOPE discovery and hope to be able to explore this further once I am able to overcome some problems that I've been having with building several newer HOPE models.

What we are talking about here is related closely to "Sonofusion" and also the "Hutchison Effect". I just want you guys to know that I very much appreciate your help and input. Few people seem to understand the basic principals behind this area of physics and so it is always uplifting to me to hear from others who do. I only wish that there were more people who could see the logic to this approach so that we could move forward a whole lot faster.


Best Regards,

Jim

[lancaIV]

Dear Jim,
I think theretime your best helper,HOPE related,is
the OU-member "adremko"("E faz-se Luz"-Trindade-orientated ?) !
Sonofusion:
What you want to get as help is a "light"-level,
with workerqualifications  like Einstein,Bose,Casimir,Sparnaay,Christofilos
Los Alamos NL is also searching for such an device !

I think that for this process we will need a double-conversion system,
it has to be a three-step-process !
I will be glad when I will reach the first,stable cyclotronic state,level !

Sincerely
            de Lanca

[saintsnick]

This guy Stiffler is on to something.  I can produce visibly similar ammounts of gas using 12 volts across stainless steel plates in distilled water and an electrolyte.  The difference is that I need much more plate surface area and a current flow between 10 and 20 amps.  BIG difference.

If Stiffler can do that kind of production with mA and what seems to be a single wire submersed, what kind of circuit is he driving this with?  Is this like an antenna? Transmitting RF into the water?

Obviously, using this technology for an engine would simply require adding more cells for higher volume gas output.  Total system rerquirements would still be low with many cells. 

FYI.....Stiffler's controll circuit may be frequency related (tuned to atomicly resonate water) but it won't match Stanley Meyers frequency.  Meyers was resonating his electrolosyser plates, which were plates of a water capicitor, to the resonant frequency of an electrical  tank circuit, utilizing a high voltage inductive kick from a transformer.  The water was the dielectric of the capicitor.  Simply put, banging the water with electrical spikes created by resonating a inductor and capasitor together. 

The inductor/capicitor circuit has a big bang to it.  Just ask Tesla.

Interesting thought on Meyer, he went on further with patent advancements to include laser light to increase gas production.  Someone mention microwaves?

If your looking for the magical frequency for splitting water with complicated electrical vibrations for your HOPE machine, check out this:

http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm#4394230

This guy was the master.  Split distilled water. Atomic Resonance.  Very complicated electronics, variable and changing modulated waveforms and specific designed resonating splitting chambers.  Nothing cheesey here.

But only Nasa could build this.


However......
I want to know more about Stiffler.  Does anyone have any information about this latest update of his, with this high gas low current trick?  Any information on the circuitry?  Any information on electrical waveforms?

I dug through the limited Stiffler Scientific website but couldn't find much. He's only selling the information to colleges for seminar purposes.  Good for him.  Good for Science advancement!  Good for Mankind!  But I don't attend these places.  Bad for me!

Thanks;
-sNick