Sonic Resonator Results and Findings, As Well As LTspice Models To Download

[fritz]

In the end .....

I have worked with spice since the early fortran based versions missing a graphical frontend....
Spice is just a tool to simulate traditional, nonrelativistic EE on numerical basis. This means that only a tiny fraction of traditional EE is handled by it. By selecting - or "autoselecting" not useful boundary and iteration conditions - complete nonsense may happen.
If there would be OU in spice circuits - the programmers  would have had to implement that.
This is the reason why its absolute nonsense to use it without understanding what you do - even more if you have no approach to basic concepts of electricity.
So are you interested into research - or are you interested in software testing - without knowing details of the application.

Hunting for OU in spice is like searching for a virgin which gave birth to 10 kids.

[TinselKoala]

I have a system right here, a real one, not a simulation, that runs on 120 volts AC, draws about 10 amps, has a 20 amp fastblow fuse on the line input. It produces an output that is adjustable, between 15 and 25 KILOVOLTS at currents of as much as 1.5 KILOAMPS. This power is sufficient to shatter almost any container, to literally vaporize wiring, to puncture holes in 1/4 inch thick sheet metal. The current is so strong that it will turn a 19" equipment rack into a giant one-turn transformer and literally weld itself together at the seams. By the logic expressed in this thread, this device is WAY overunity. Waaaaaayyyyyy OU.




Thank goodness its duty cycle is short. It can only produce about 10 pulses like that per second, and each pulse is only microseconds long, representing the ringdown of a 3 uF 30 kV capacitor bank. But if I approximated that ringdown waveform with a square wave, according to my own private model...and then computed the RMS power, whatever that is, and equated that with energy, then I too could claim waaaaayyy overunity, and with a real device, too, not just a simulation.


(This is called a reductio ad absurdum.)

[AbbaRue]

This is a perfect example of why I don't trust measurements.
I don't care what the measurements say about a device.
I won't believe a device is truly OU until it can run itself,
and have power left to run something else.
All measuring devices are calibrated to the presently known
model of the universe, and that model is probably full of error.
So the measuring devices are also unreliable.
If you get something to run itself with power to spare, then there
can be no question that it is collecting energy from somewhere.

[TinselKoala]

I actually agree with you.

[poynt99]

Truly amazing how a little knowledge can lead folks so astray.

I actually thought taking the bait on this one might do some good...evidently not.

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