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Overunity Machines Forum



Ricks Pipe Dream

Started by AquariuZ, May 23, 2009, 04:40:30 AM

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nyctuber

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 25, 2009, 11:53:51 AM
What has Rick's project got to do with Science? Science is a process, one feature of which is the attempt to DISCONFIRM an hypothesis by using correctly designed control experiments. Only when the researcher FAILS TO DISPROVE his hypothesis (that the magnet stators are helping rather than hurting, for example) is he in a position to state a positive finding.

This procedure (the Scientific Method) is not being followed in Rick's research program.

Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!

TinselKoala

"Just don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

Now, where have I heard that before?

Oh, yeah, I remember now. It was one of Archer (spit on the floor) Quinn's favorite rebukes to people who wanted him to prove his contentions scientifically.

nyctuber

Quote from: jibbguy on May 25, 2009, 11:54:55 AM
So what's the matter now? Is Rickoff doing it "too properly" for some peoples' tastes? He's making a mockery of your mockeries eh, lol? His very existence threatens yours somehow?

Because attempting to backhandedly demean and deride someone simply for producing a well conceived and carried out project, is disgusting and very suspicious behavior that would get you banned in most other forums.

"He's showing everyone how to do it RIGHT! OMG he must pay for that!"

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE to think you can just dis someone for the hell of it?

...AND WHAT ARE YOUR MOTIVES FOR DOING SO?

You want someone to attack just for the hell of it?

I'm your Huckleberry.

Just don't bring a knife to a gun fight, and remember to wear a raincoat before attempting to piss up a rope.

"Are you feeling lucky, punk?"

".... Want a shot at the Title?" 

So you guys had better watch out, lol... I've got more cliches lined up and i'm not afraid to use them!!

We can turn this forum the rest of the way into something that resembles a teen gaming forum with the adult moderators on vacation....

Or we can move ahead and get things done; and insist that people treat others with the respect their work has clearly shown they deserve.

"Yeah, i'm talkin' to you... Are you talkin' to me?"

Hehehe couldn't resist that one ;)

Here's a news flash for all the Professional Bozos out there: No one is going to be intimidated by you losers into not replicating, posting, or coming forward with projects. Your attempts are frankly pathetic; and the harder you try, the more obvious and absurd it all looks. Your "Happy Time" here is over.  So why don't you just go back to the political forums and try to convince others that international bankers are really nice guys when you get to know them, lol. 

But we expect you'll stick around and try anyway.

Bounty Hunter to Clint: "A man's gotta make a livin' somehow these days..."

Clint: "Diein' ain't much of a livin', boy."  ;)

Of course Clint then shot the guy... And no actual bullets will be used here. But there are several types of "death" to worry about, eh? Like getting fired from your sh*tty shilling job for "gross incompetence" hehehe.

:)          :)           :)           :)            :)
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@Rickoff: Don't waste your time here, m8 . You certainly don't need this, nor anyone to defend you; but we do need YOU and your excellent project to proceed on course ;)

The problem is that he is not doing it properly at all.

Have you people learned NOTHING from Mylow?

Please give me ONE valid reason why Rick's setup could possibly work.


rickoff

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 25, 2009, 11:05:24 AM
Rick, could you please perform and post some simple control experiments with your rig?

Yours is really easy to test properly. All you have to do is to figure out a system that is repeatable to bring your wheel from the "valley" into the starting position.

There are at least 2 ways to do this: 1) use a weight of just enough weight, and a string wrapped around the axle or periphery of the wheel, as I have shown in some of my testing vids, or 2) run the wheel up to a known measured rpm; and in both cases time the rundown or count the turns or provide some objective measurement of performance.

Then compare the performance of your wheel, WITH and WITHOUT the stator (s) mounted. This procedure will tell you if your wheel is really "working" in any sense that matters.

I'm asking you nicely, to perform the very most basic experiment. It might take you all of half an hour to perform 5 rundowns in each condition.

I'll even offer to pay you your regular salary or wage rate, for the time it takes for you to set up and perform this set of experiments, because I know that one can't expect to get something for nothing.
Sincerely,
--TK

I don't want or need your money.  I'd be glad to perform more tests, and already have several planned.

You'll have to be a bit more specific as to what you are defining.  What "valley," and which "starting point" are you referring to?  And how could I possibly demonstrate the "performance" of the wheel without the stator mounted?  The wheel is surely not going to perform on its own.

No tests are going to prove much of anything until I complete my timing track, as that is the whole objective of getting this to work at maximum efficiency.  Testing my ability to manually time the stator movement won't yield any useful data, since it is impossible for me to accurately move the stator after just a few seconds of operation.  As soon as the spinning quickens, everything becomes a blur to me and I cannot visually distinguish the timing points, so have to quit.  Still, it does demonstrate that this method produces quick and poweful accelleration.  I think that the flywheel test, which I hope to do this evening, should tell us quite a bit when compared to the output in video 16.  I'm also going to try some video playback in slow motion to get a better idea of exactly how I want to lay my track out.  I will leave just a single magnet group on the wheel, and start from a dead stop with attraction at the front end and moving the stator for repulsion at the tail end.  As soon as the group passes by the stator, I will move the stator arm out of the way and wait for the wheel to run down to a stop.  The entire movement, from dead start to stop, will be timed.  After doing numerous such tests while videotaping, I will go back to the sequence that produced the best results (longest duration) and view that video segment in slow motion to determine the exact stator movement that needs to be reproduced.  And then I will know exactly how to lay down my monorail track.  Tests such as this are really the only important ones to be considered at this time.  After the timing system is completed I will perform any number of tests to your specifications, and perhaps if Chet comes up then he can observe the tests and also lend a hand.  It was really difficult, in video 16 to attempt maintaining timing with one hand while taking a tachometer reading with the other hand, so an extra set of hands would definitely come in handy.  I'd aadvise you to carefully review videos 15 and 16, and watch the method I am using to provide rotation.  Then think about tests which would pertain to this mode of operation and let me know what you come up with.

Best regards,

Rick   :)   

AquariuZ

Quote from: jibbguy on May 25, 2009, 11:54:55 AM
@Rickoff: Don't waste your time here, m8 . You certainly don't need this, nor anyone to defend you; but we do need YOU and your excellent project to proceed on course ;)

Until there is decent moderation in here, I will have to agree.

I might just start a forum of my own just for the heck of it.

AZ