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Will it work ?

Started by mondainmax, May 26, 2009, 02:35:40 PM

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mondainmax

it will move like that.

mondainmax

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 26, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
This cannot function since there is no difference in torque between the two sides. This was established in 1719 by Dr. Desagulier in a famous experiment called Desagulier's balance (see his drawing below ) The same principle applies here.

Hans von Lieven

in that photo P can move on F-G bar or not ? also W ?

hansvonlieven

I know what you are trying to show, but there is no difference in force, in fact both sides balance.

Below is a simplified diagram of your device. It shows clearly that it acts like Desagulier's balance. The distribution of forces are the same.

Read up on Desagulier's balance, it is not a well known phenomenon but it is real.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

mondainmax

Quote from: hansvonlieven on May 26, 2009, 05:35:21 PM
I know what you are trying to show, but there is no difference in force, in fact both sides balance.

Below is a simplified diagram of your device. It shows clearly that it acts like Desagulier's balance. The distribution of forces are the same.

Read up on Desagulier's balance, it is not a well known phenomenon but it is real.

Hans von Lieven

Reds cancel cause of downward force but the others that are on gear and they want go
to left. if i make a mistake pls show me i want to learn.

hansvonlieven

Just make a simple rig up as shown, maybe using a Meccano set and study its behaviour. The chain makes all the difference when the forces are distributed, it no longer acts like a flapwheel, though a flapwheel does not work either, but for different reasons.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx