Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[Pageygeeza]

Thanks man appreciate it!

[LarryC]

@All,

It seem that a few are trying to make others think that Thane does not know what he stating. The following screen captures were taken from his last video.

The first picture shows an OS, but it is not being used. So maybe Thane does not understand how to operate as expressed by others.

The second picture shows an operating OS, probably connected to his torrid transformer to the right. Must be his assistant Egor got it running.

The third picture from the video of his work board shows how a normal generator with high current coil operates. This is the same obvious established laws and equations that a few individuals have posted here afterward.

FYI, from my long experience with Thanes post, if the laws and equations are obvious, then Thane allready knows.


The fourth picture from the video of his work board shows how his generator design produces acceleration at TDC. Please note that since it is N S N magnets in the rotor, then it is a continuous positive and negative semi sine wave.

The fifth picture from the video shows all and only the closed minded will not understand.

Regards, Larry

[CRANKYpants]

@All,

The second picture shows an operating OS, probably connected to his torrid transformer to the right. Must be his assistant Egor got it running.

FYI, from my long experience with Thanes post, if the laws and equations are obvious, then Thane allready knows.

The fifth picture from the video shows all and only the closed minded will not understand.

Regards, Larry

I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP HERE:

1st
I SOLD EGOR TO GOTOLUC WHEN HE MOVED AWAY.
I ONLY HAVE QUASIMODO AND FRITZ LEFT NOW BUT FRITZ IS FOREVER DOWN IN THE BIOLOGY LAB.

2nd
FRITZ GAINED ALOT OF EXPERIENCE FROM DR. FRANKENSTEIN SO IF ANYONE NEEDS THEIR CLOSED MINDS OPENNED UP LET ME KNOW.

3rd and most important!
FYI LARRYSEE HAS NO, I REPEAT NO, EXPERIENCE WITH MY LONG POST! 

CARRY ON AS YOU WERE.
T

[CRANKYpants]

Did I miss something?  Whatever happened to the over-unity demo? 

fred

YES FRED YOU MISSED A LOT AS DO MOST PEOPLE.
VITUALLY EVERY DEMO VIDEO I POST IS OVER-UNITY...
THE ONLY PROBLEM NOW (AS ALWAYS) IS LACK OF EDUCATION.

THE OU DEMO YOU SPEAK OF WAS CANCELED BECAUSE IT WAS REDUNDANT.

SEE LETTER BELOW,
(be aware there is no such thing as less than zero torque or negative energy in the conventional sense - it helps people understand in these terms).

Dear Orion Project,

I know this is not exactly what you want at the Orion Project right now but you should be aware of this. I humbly suggest that you be a little more flexible with your criteria so you don't be left behind and I respectfully submit that your lack of education in this matter should be addressed and bolstered where need be.

PLEASE READ AND HAVE THIS CONFIRMED BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS.
(Feel free to reject it as you see fit - I just want you to be informed so you don't miss the boat).

A generator converts mechanical energy in to electrical energy.  

The INPUT Mechanical Power = Drive Shaft Torque x Speed
(notice this mathematical equation says nothing nor does it care about prime mover efficiency or prime mover power consumption)

Net Drive Shaft Torque @

Steady State Speed, Net Drive Shaft Torque = 0
Acceleration Net Drive Shaft Torque is greater than 0
Deceleration Net Drive Shaft Torque is less than 0 (negative or countertorque in the other direction)

Now again - Mechanical Drive Shaft Power = Torque x Speed

So if the system is decelerating then the Net Torque is "less" than zero, therefore the net mechanical power IN the drive shaft is "less" than zero.

Energy is the ability to do work. With net zero power in - there is no ability to do any work so net zero energy comes out. There is work available in the drive shaft as inertia but the net energy out = 0 because you had to put work in - in the first place to get said inertia.

This critical point is stressed in every video and the accelerating High Voltage Coils are always engaged during SYSTEM DECELERATION and then cause ACCELERATION of the system.

So the question is where does the acceleration (extra ENERGY) come from?

Answer:
The High Voltage Coils above the critical minimum rotor frequency because deceleration returns if the High Voltage Coils are disengaged or if the rotor speed it too low.

1)
Now we have a drive shaft that is decelerating.

2)
The ENERGY IN a decelerating drive shaft is "LESS" THAN ZERO.

3)
If we try to extract energy (in the conventional mode) from a drive shaft that is decelerating we will only contribute to the deceleration and our output will be net zero.

4)
It is ONLY when the rotor speed stabilizes at a steady state speed can we extract REAL USE ABLE POWER.
This is the Power IN.

5)
When we engage the power producing High Voltage Coils AND cause system acceleration WITH a drive shaft that is decelerating (0 net power) then we are operating in the OVER-UNITY RANGE because our energy IN is STILL less than 0 but our energy OUT is greater than 0.

Please check out our latest video and enclosed Power Point where the
NET POWER IN = 7 Watts
And the NET POWER OUT = 45 Watts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ&feature=channel_page

In the mean time I am still trying to satisfy your criteria but it requires more time and money because we have to eliminate the core losses in the coil stator (with a one piece stator) and find a more efficient prime mover. I am also building larger coils which will produce more power out.

This is not a request for additional funding because I will do it anyway but you should be aware of all the facts so you can proceed accordingly. Additional funding will only serve to expedite the whole process.

Thanks
Thane

Thane C. Heins
President - Potential +/- Difference Inc.


"Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything."
- George Bernard Shaw

[i_ron]

@All,

It seem that a few are trying to make others think that Thane does not know what he stating.

Regards, Larry

Yes Larry, you were right.

Good bye,

Ron P

An Analysis of Thane Hein’s Three Legged Core

One of the things that kept me going on this was the dramatic increase in speed and output when the HV coil was shorted on the three legged model.

However it has a rather mundane explanation when examined.

With a 120 ohm coil on the center leg, draw is reduced from 81 watts to 67 watts, when shorted. Base line draw, with no core, was 47 watts, thus the shorted HV coil has reduced the draw a little better than one third. A sense coil on one outside leg showed conventional behavior in that voltage was reduced by about one half when the HV coil was shorted. This is a logical observation, when you draw heavily on one leg the other leg is not capable of the previous output.  A sense coil over the HV coil showed an almost no induced voltage state, when the HV coil was shorted.

It is perhaps easiest to understand what is taking place, if one were to imagine a coil wound over one outside leg and the center leg. There would be no measurable output as the two cores are in anti-phase.

So with a coil over all three legs, as has been shown in the videos, the total induced voltage is limited by the anti-phase leg in the center. When the negative influence of this leg is ameliorated by shorting the HV coil, the output voltage rises correspondingly. Simple as that. In actual fact, if the center leg and HV coil were to be cut out, the output would probably be greater.

To date my experiments have shown that core drag reduction only takes place with a high drag material such as steel transformer laminations; with a low drag material, such as Somaloy, the effect is not present, in fact the opposite, draw is increased by shorting the HV coil with a Somaloy core. This statement by itself should pose a serious question for those supporting a capacitive effect. I do not have the specifications for the coils and cores in Thane’s latest video, so am unable to verify their behavior