Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

[minde4000]

Ya PM has not been working with my PC for a few weeks now. Opens empty page with background and border menus. Altho I can PM from my phone.

[LarryC]

LC AND ALL,

I CANNOT RESPOND TO PM's FOR SOME STRANGE REASON?

SO IF YOU WANT TO PM ME, PLEASE DO IT THE OLD FASHIONED WAY VIA EMAIL @

thane_heins@yahoo.ca

THANKS
T

I have had the same problems. But I picked up the new free Google Chrome broswer and after a little software fight was able to get it to respond to the OU PM's. It has other problems but it can handle OU PM's.

T, I will still resend to your email.

Regards, Larry

[baroutologos]

Hi @ all,

I was experimenting with my low rpm / few magnets setup and i observed and doubled (triple etc) verified one thing that perplexes my understanding.

Almost all coils i used (except one 75 ohms, 29 gauge wire) are not accellarating in my setup.... BUT, most of them does not deccellarate much either (when shorted). Note that happens in high rpm

(only 1 biffilar deccellarated till dead stop when shorted only the one parallel winding whereas the other remained opened)

My last coil to experiment with, was one 24 agw @ 10 ohms. At 1100 rpm the coil does not accellarated the system when shorted, BUT neither decellarated it much. Actually it is decellarating the system some 100 rpm and that's it.

Why is that i wonder? If it is not accellarating, why shorted does not decellarate too much? (max current through shorted coil)

This particular coil develop some 58 volt ac and 0,38 Amps oscillating current. (AC)
Again, if you apply any load (say 2-3 ohms bulb - 5 watts) oscillating current goes down to 0,35 A and decellaration kicks in hard driving system almost to dead stop!

Wtf? Why is that happening? It is a fact to me after all that experimentaing that a shorted HC coil (way far from accellarating) in some serious rpm is way less burden to the system than a loaded one (extracting energy from system).

or in otherwords, my non accellarating coils (decellarating actually)  shorted slow system a bit, under a real load slow it a lot.
or In burden terms any load >> than short

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I actually made some arbitrary calculations based on the data i gathered on my different HC coils
1 ) biffilar 2 x 29 @ 38 ohms, 19 ohms in parallel ( 50 vvolts @ 0,25 A)
2 ) trifilar 3 x 29 @ 20 ohms, 7 ohms in parallel (27 volts @ 0,450 A)
3 ) solo winding 24 @ 10 ohms (last one) (57volts @ 0,38 A)

all shorted slow system in a similar mode (100 rpm)
i calculated ohmic losses in shorted mode
1 )  1,2 watts
2 ) 1,4 watts
3 ) 1,4 watts
So all in shorted mode have same ohmic losses hence same rpm loss

I concluded with some frustration that deccellaration from these non-accellarating coils depended on energy extraction rather current flowing through them.

Your views pls

Regards,
Baroutologos

[i_ron]

Hi i_ron,

I really like it that way. Now one thing with your lathe-setup :

Can you please do two changes and place the results here :

1) put a 1KiloOhm, then a 100 ohm and then a 10 ohm load on your coil as I assume that your coil is just free running.
2) place another two magnets 20 Degrees left and right of your primary magnet, so you can simulate the situation of the interaction of the +di/dt ( accessing magnet ) and -di/dt ( receeding magnet ) with your primary magnet at TDC.
3) do  this with thh different loads according to 1)

This could bring us all a big step forward to really understand what is going on.

of course the coil should be the kind of a HV-coil.

Best Regards

Kator01

Kator,

Here are some results for the experiment you asked for….just the single magnet in this post. The coil is 63 ohms. The PM is around 1740 RPM.

I put a ½ inch magnet on the back of the disc to trigger B channel. The ‘T1’ marker is TDC. The caption with the picture is what is happening… “sm” = single magnet. Note that the scale changes from 5V to 1V

Ron

[i_ron]

Hi i_ron,

2) place another two magnets 20 Degrees left and right of your primary magnet, so you can simulate the situation of the interaction of the +di/dt ( accessing magnet ) and -di/dt ( receeding magnet ) with your primary magnet at TDC.
3) do  this with thh different loads according to 1)

This could bring us all a big step forward to really understand what is going on.

of course the coil should be the kind of a HV-coil.

Best Regards

Kator01

Here is the Three magnet setup  SNS...

But what is interesting is a hall sensor pickup which I will post tomorrow, or after this has been discussed.

Ron