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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Started by hartiberlin, May 28, 2009, 05:54:52 PM

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derricka

I don't think there is much argument here, that Thane's claims run counter to the current scientifically accepted viewpoint. In fact, the whole premise of overunity.com is to find "free energy" which represents a violation of the second law of thermodynamics, one of the cornerstones of modern physics. Anyone here at overunity.com is generally looking for a diamond in the mud. Not only will it be highly unlikely that anyone finds one, but even if they do, it will be covered in mud. How do you know if you have a diamond? Wash and test. In the "free energy" sense, the diamond would be a working device that produces energy. The mud is all the ideas and theory both for, and against. To cut to the chase, we won't listen to any theories that Thane may have, but we will put his device on the bench. We remove the bench grinder. We will feed his device a similar, measured amount of torque, at a measured amount of RPM. We will take the output power, rectify/filter it to DC, and measure power across a calibrated, pure resistive load.  We then compare the efficiency to a similarly tested alternator, taken from a Honda generator.  If Thane's device is better, we cut him a cheque. If its worse, we politely tell him to get lost. Make no mistake, Thanes device will get independently tested like this, before a really big cheque gets cut That is, unless the customer is a fool. Until proper testing, it's all hot air and pretty pictures from all of us here. As for scientific theory, if it works, science will figure it out, and adapt to it, just as it should.


CRANKYpants

Quote from: i_ron on June 25, 2009, 11:26:46 AM

Dboss, OUman, Polar Breeze, Natan, have all said it much better than I ever did. What I did was quietly and simply point out, with actual evidence, where your theories and models where at odds with the truth. Some people already knew, others will find out for themselves. Not once have you come back with any evidence to the contrary that what I have said is wrong, so I will let my work speak for itself.

Ron

ANY CRITISISM BY ANONYMOUS COWARDS WHO WON'T COME TO THE LAB IS WORHTLESS.

FOR EXAMPLE I SUGGEST NATAN WEISAMN AND NICKOLAI BILLANIUK ARE THEY SAME PERSON AND NICKOLAI LIVES IN OTTAWA   ??? ONLY A COUPLE OF KM's FROM THE UNIVERSITY.

Dboss, OUman, Polar Breeze, Natan, HOPTOAD - WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
ARE THEY EVEN REAL - OR ARE THEY ALL THE SAME PERSON?

THE TRUTH IS AS ALWAYS - COME TO THE LAB - SEE THE DEMO - PUBLISH DATA AND REPORT.
THE DOORS ARE ALWAYS OPEN.

EXCEPT IF YOU ARE AN CHICKEN SH_T LIKE THE ABOVE MENTIONED.

SCISCOOP ARTICLE WRITTEN BY NATAN WEISMAN
http://www.sciscoop.com/perepiteia-explanation.pdf

SKEPTICS ARTICLE WRITTEN BY NICKOLAI BILLANIUK
http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/images/fbfiles/files/explanation_of_Perepiteia_v2.pdf

AS FAR AS YOU BEING RIGHT OR WRONG - YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOR DO I SO I CAN'T SAY AND  DON'T CARE EITHER.

I AM HERE FOR THE SINCERE LEARNERS - AS LONG AS THEY EXIST I WILL BE HERE TO HELP IF I CAN.

T

Nali2001

Well Thane I have read a bit of these last documents and even from my setup -back then- I can say that the 'acceleration' - whatever that implies or caused it, aside. Can and does happen with universal motors like the washing machine seen below. The other image shows a Cap tuned 1.5hp single phase induction motor driven at rated in sync rpm. In the case of the universal motor the rmp goes up, in the case of the induction motor, the amp draw goes down. Not that it is any news to you, but still thought I'd throw it in.

Steven

CRANKYpants

Quote from: Nali2001 on June 25, 2009, 08:22:34 PM
Well Thane I have read a bit of these last documents and even from my setup -back then- I can say that the 'acceleration' - whatever that implies or caused it, aside. Can and does happen with universal motors like the washing machine seen below. The other image shows a Cap tuned 1.5hp single phase induction motor driven at rated in sync rpm. In the case of the universal motor the rmp goes up, in the case of the induction motor, the amp draw goes down. Not that it is any news to you, but still thought I'd throw it in.

Steven

IT OCCURRED BECAUSE YOU SATURATED YOUR CORES AND THEY OVERHEATED - PERIOD.

AND WHEN YOU CHANGED THE CORES TO LAMINATIONS THE ACCELERATION DISAPPEARED - JUST AS YOU STATED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

THE MOTOR IS IRRELEVANT.

NOW EITHER YOU ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH OR NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO COME CLEAN HERE - SO WHICH ONE IS IT?

T

“Nothing can confound a wise man more than laughter from a dunce.”
- Lord Byron


CRANKYpants

Quote from: LarryC on June 25, 2009, 05:04:38 PM

Thane, exactly why does your rpm's have to be much higher now for acceleration? Asking, because I'm still using the old rotor and would have to upgrade to handle that speed.

Regards, Larry   

THEY DON'T REALLY - CHECK THE LAST VIDEO - I AM GETTING ACCELERATION AT 900 RPM OR LESS WHEN THE HV COILS ARE SHORTED.

NOW IF I WANT TO PRODUCE USEABLE POWER I NEED TO STEP DOWN THE OUTPUT AS I SEE YOU ARE DOING AND THE TRANSFORMER LOAD IS CAUSING THE REQUIRED RPM TO BE HIGHER.

BUT THIS IS NOT ALL THAT IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WILL SIMPLY BE RECTIFYING OUR OUTPUT AND FEEDING IT INTO BATTERIES SO THERE WILL BE NO NEED TO STEP DOWN THE OUTPUT.

QuoteI still have a large spool of 28 gauge wire, so next step will be winding a bi-filar coil using that and check the difference.

MAKE SURE IT IS TIGHT - AND ARE YOU STILL USING IRON CORES  :( IF SO PLEASE REMEMBER THE CORE HYSERESIS CURVE/REACTION TIME WILL IMPEDE COIL PERFORMANCE.

QuoteThane, exactly why does your rpm's have to be much higher now for acceleration? Asking, because I'm still using the old rotor and would have to upgrade to handle that speed.

YOUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS SHOULD BE TO CAUSE DECELERATION WITH A LOADED HC COIL AND THEN BE ABLE TO OVERIDE THIS DECELERATION WITH AN HV COIL AND THIS CAN OCCUR AT ANY SPEED.

IN THIS SCENARIO YOU ARE ONLY CHANGING ONE VARIABLE AND YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE MOTOR FROM THE EQUATION BECAUSE THE MOTOR IS A CONTROL VARIABLE.

T