Stan Meyer Energy is Stolen from The Sun

[newbie123]

Stan was a bright man but yet even he never grasped the true concept of what energy is.

Two naive assumptions...   


@quarktoo


Are you going to defend yourself?   Or should I just assume that you're full of it?

As per usual, I see a lot of hot air and plenty of theorising, but nothing concrete to work with.

Incidentally, there is also a big difference between a typo and whole paragraghs of utter garbage.

Weird isn't it?    It's almost as if people are trying to defend Stan Meyer and his technology, even though in all of his documents, patents, and information there isn't enough info  to making a working WFC or hydrogen device....

So now we have people injecting their own theories, etc, on what Stan Meyer might have been REALLY DOING (grasping at straws)      Could it be that he wasn't really doing ANYTHING special??   Could it be he was delusional?    Oh no no no.... 
     

[nightlife]

Two naive assumptions...

Naive? Easy there. Stan was bright and your denial is nothing more then your own misconception of the work he has done.
I have yet to see a true replica of his work to even assume it doesn't work. Some of his most important work is still being hid from us and or as been lost for ever. There are some threads here where we have came up with some good designs that may work but I have yet to hear of any one building one to see if they do and or do not work. Everything has a vibrance break down point. Just as everything has a vibrance make up cemistry. This is what some of John's work is about. Stan took a spark and broke it down into diferent vibrances which allowed him to use one to split and then another to fire. The firing had to take place where the split was already seperated. In this case, Hydrogen and Oxygen. If it wasn't, the energy released from one would be absobed by the other making it what it was before it was split creating a implosion instead of a explosion. Therefore none of the oxygen that was split can be present and or only lesser amounts can be present when the hydrogen is ignited. The amounts would determain the strenth of the explosion. Equal amounts would create a implosion where as odd amounts would create a explosion as long as the larger amount is the substance being fired apon. The mixture is as critical as the vibrance of the vibrances used to split and fire are. The vibrant cemistry of the split mixture is already 100% compatable where as outside like componets are most likely not conditioned enough to be 100% compatable.

Yes we all may have our own theorys but we all have to agree with the basics as to what we can see, hear, touch feel and smell. Vibrance makes that all possible becuase without vibrance, there would be nothing at all. Hearing of others theory's helps inspire others to create there own and or to just get involved. We need as many as we can to get involved because the more help we can get, the better the chances are to acheiving what we all are seeking. Name calling and rude comments do nothing but steer others away so please keep the name calling and rude comments to your selves.

Again, good luck to you all and I will now go back to hiding under the rock I just crawled out from under again.

[newbie123]

Naive? Easy there. Stan was bright and your denial is nothing more then your own misconception of the work he has done.

Just curious..  Why do you think he was bright? 

All I've seen from Stan Meyer are:   Some patents filled with misinformation (or deception).      Some lectures full of bogus information and fantasy science..     Not a single working WFC replication..    Some videos that prove nothing...      What else is there?

I have yet to see a true replica of his work to even assume it doesn't work.

So do you just assume that it does work, without any skepticism?

Some of his most important work is still being hid from us and or as been lost for ever.

Another wild assumption.     Someone is actually selling all of Stan Meyer's notes (cabinets full) ... equipment, buggy, etc... right now for around 100,000 USD.    A real bargin ... If there is just one shred of information really explaining how to build a WFC.

There are some threads here where we have came up with some good designs that may work but I have yet to hear of any one building one to see if they do and or do not work.

My point exactly.   Why are people having to come up with their own designs?   This is what I call 'grasping at straws' ...  Why keep wasting your time analyzing Meyer's bull shit stories and circuits?

If  Stan Meyer did something special  (by accident, imho)  ...  He was doing LENR / Cold Fusion ...  That is all it could have been,  there is nothing else...  No magical vibrational energy harnessing, just nuclear fusion (which is still very cool)..

Lots of interesting and real scientific information available on this subject at www.lenr-canr.org, btw.

Everything has a vibrance break down point. Just as everything has a vibrance make up cemistry. This is what some of John's work is about. Stan took a spark and broke it down into diferent vibrances which allowed him to use one to split and then another to fire. The firing had to take place where the split was already seperated. In this case, Hydrogen and Oxygen. If it wasn't, the energy released from one would be absobed by the other making it what it was before it was split creating a implosion instead of a explosion. Therefore none of the oxygen that was split can be present and or only lesser amounts can be present when the hydrogen is ignited. The amounts would determain the strenth of the explosion. Equal amounts would create a implosion where as odd amounts would create a explosion as long as the larger amount is the substance being fired apon. The mixture is as critical as the vibrance of the vibrances used to split and fire are. The vibrant cemistry of the split mixture is already 100% compatable where as outside like componets are most likely not conditioned enough to be 100% compatable.

Lol.. What?  Please don't just make things up.  Yes, atoms and molecules vibrate but don't get carried away.

[Farrah Day]

@ Nightlife

The firing had to take place where the split was already seperated. In this case, Hydrogen and Oxygen. If it wasn't, the energy released from one would be absobed by the other making it what it was before it was split creating a implosion instead of a explosion. Therefore none of the oxygen that was split can be present and or only lesser amounts can be present when the hydrogen is ignited.

You weren't by any chance Meyers ghostwriter were you, because you're well up there in the realms of pseudoscience. Have you any idea of the nonsense you have just posted?

I totally agree with Newbie, nothing in any video lecture I have seen of Meyer inclines me to think he was bright or indeed gifted in any way... rather the opposite - and the videos are there for everyone to see. He always comes across as a regular Joe talking about stuff waaay beyond his knowledge or understanding and is clearly totally out of his depth. If you can't see this it is only because you lack the education in the subject to do so - as it appears do many others.

And as Newbie highlights, to simply assume something works because no one else has yet replicated it to prove it doesn't, is a quite absurd statement.

And what the hell is all this talk of vibrance... for Pete's sake???

[newbie123]

He always comes across as a regular Joe talking about stuff waaay beyond his knowledge or understanding and is clearly totally out of his depth. If you can't see this it is only because you lack the education in the subject to do so - as it appears do many others.

Farrah Day,

I agree,  but I wouldn't call him an average Joe...   

The thing that throws people off with   Stan Meyer, is his extreme  confidence and apparent honesty.    He acts like he knows exactly what he's  talking about even when he's  DEAD WRONG (this can be easily proven)..   In my mind this is HUGE red flag,      but some people choose to judge his information/inventions  by his charismatism and apparent character (over even some mystical Tesla technology).  Which is the foolish thing to do.   The best frauds ever  were very  charismatic, confident, likable, seemly honest,  etc....

When I first watched the Stan Meyer news clip (a long time ago)..  I was intrigued  and thought...    Why would this guy come out and BS everyone about his technologies?  He seems very honest..    He even has a working water car video....   etc.  .. All this doesn't matter.

After reading his patents/papers, and watching his lectures,  while I learned more about the science,   I started to see problems with his theories and information...