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Started by IronShell3d, May 31, 2009, 03:49:00 AM

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newbie123

Quote from: Chef on June 02, 2009, 03:30:41 PM
I think we could talk about that non-stop, but because of these things are out of our objective reality
I can come up with  random thoughts and speculation on the atomic structure, and energy  all day too   but that doesn't make it correct..     What you are describing is pure none sense.   Just because something (or a  model) makes sense to you...   Doesn't make that model a reality...  And yes, the majority of sane people live in the same real world.

Quotewe all have to accept an analogy to write around, what we would never really see. Of course, to understand, we don't have to see.

Good analogies exist, but those have nothing  to do with the garbage you're spewing here.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

newbie123

Quote from: Chef on June 02, 2009, 03:40:50 PM
What gives existence of the atom? 

Let's look a copper atom. The electron called parts of the atomic cycle are in motion. Motion require energy. Do we power the copper atoms?

What is 'the atomic cycle'?   

Quantum physics,  the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and electron shell model are the  best, and proven to  describe the atomic electron....     If you throw an object in space it doesn't slow down because there isn't any resistance to slow it down..  A similar analogy might be used to show the electron 'movement'  inside its shell.

Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

newbie123

Quote from: Chef on June 02, 2009, 04:05:45 PM
Atom's are receiving and radiating energy constantly, oscillating in the time line. That process is cyclic.
Do you have a reference? 
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

newbie123

Quote from: Chef on June 02, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
About the analogies in a scientific area, I recommend you to read that book from Heisenberg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Part_and_The_Whole

Good book, have fun!

A whole book?  Lol...  Which parts of that book  specifically relate to what you are saying?  Do you have any quotes from the book?
Until you can measure it, arguing about something can be many things.. But science is not one of them.

lostcauses10x

Hmm if there is no OU, then CoE holds, so life has to be a function of Coe and were the motion and thinking; are a form of dispersal of excess energy: from the solar system with the earth in its location.
Even the believe in God, and disbelief in things like we are effecting our environment; of course other such things; falls under such a rule. It is easier to get the whole group at CoE with such beliefs and therefore ignoring the reality of our existence so we can progress faster of the destruction of the atmosphere, soil, and water.
  Makes for a great story I think that  way..

  Only problem with this being a story, it does fit, so maybe a hypothesis. The study of histroy of man and the life on earth also suport such an idea. The proof, well it would be way to late to find such ehh.

On a different note: the book suggested by Chef it is a good read.