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Overunity Machines Forum



New TPU build

Started by Farrah Day, June 14, 2009, 07:13:39 AM

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Farrah Day

Interesting link Mk1, but it seems to me that even Naudin has a funny idea about what a Mobius loop is - he even spells it differently.

Bep, yes that was my point exactly, you can form a mobius loop from a ribbon or a strip, but not from a loop of round wire.

QuoteWho said this coil is where load is connected? That would defeat the purpose.

There are a few mentions of a Mobius coil being used for a collector on this site. And yes, the fact that the collector has terminals to attach a load, again meant that they are not true Mobius loops.  I think the definition of a true Mobius loop is probably getting a little distorted by a few people.

Not to worry, I'm still working my way through things trying to clarify as much as I can in order to give me a basis for my 1st prototype TPU.

As far as I can make out, magnetic fields are also a source of radiant energy, and when a large magnetic field colapses very quickly, this temporarily creates an energy void, or as some people refer to it, 'a sink', whereby radiant energy then rushes in to fill this 'void'.

Another explanation might be that opposing magnetic fields that effectively cancel each other out could also open the door to radiant energy, by again producing an energy void.

I am under the impression that the Caduceus coil or Caduceus wound coils will be far more effective at achieving this phenomena, and indeed more practical than a Mobius loop.

I'm considering doing some experiments with a ring of copper tubing filled with electrolyte as a former on which to add coils. The idea being that the ions in the electrolyte will react to pulses provided to the coils, but being 50,000 times the mass of the electron, will not initially be able to move quick enough, which itself might lead to some interesting results. Furthermore if multiple coils are pulsed and the ions are caused to move, due to their mass they will not stop as quickly as the electrons. In this experiment I intend to have my collector coil wrapped around my electrolyte filled, copper tube former, with control coils wrapped at intervals around my collector coil.

I notice that many people use 3 control coils, which effectively simulates a 3-phase power supply.

All very interesting stuff, but with so little known facts or proof, it is all hypothesis with very little foundation to build on. I guess I'll have to rely on my own build to provide most of the answers... of course, whether or not I will be able to make head or tail of the results will be another matter entirely.
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

Farrah Day

Is there anyone looking in that is currently building, or testing a previously built TPU, that I can actually converse with?

That is, someone prepared to compare and discuss designs, substantiate experiments and exchange data and results.

Anyone??

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

poynt99

Quote from: Farrah Day on June 20, 2009, 05:56:02 PM
All very interesting stuff, but with so little known facts or proof, it is all hypothesis with very little foundation to build on. I guess I'll have to rely on my own build to provide most of the answers... of course, whether or not I will be able to make head or tail of the results will be another matter entirely.

Pretty much what I told you at the beginning. You're finally catching on ;)

There are a number of people testing, but unless at least two are working on essentially the same configuration, it would be pretty hard to discuss anything meaningful, wouldn't it?

Good luck with your build and tests.

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
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Farrah Day

P99

QuoteThere are a number of people testing, but unless at least two are working on essentially the same configuration, it would be pretty hard to discuss anything meaningful, wouldn't it?


Not necessarily, it could save a lot of unnecessary experimenting by possibly eliminating some designs while perhaps indicating promising paths on which to concentrate... besides it's good to converse with people doing similar things and compare notes.

Though at this point I do rather get the feeling that I'll be the only one doing any practical work.

It would also be nice to see some pictures of TPUs that members have built.

Incidentally, this seems to be one of the most informative SM videos.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8435800732540412467&q=steven+mark

We are told here that it is basically a configuration of simple coils, which appears to be operating at some resonant frequency that is kick started by the small permanent magnet. With the magnet removed the output gradually decreases just like the decay of oscillations observed from an LC circuit once the maintenance pulse is removed.

Extremely interesting is that the device stops working when it is turned upside down, which in itself seems quite bizarre. Fascinating.

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

Grumpy

Quote from: Farrah Day on June 21, 2009, 09:40:05 AM
Extremely interesting is that the device stops working when it is turned upside down, which in itself seems quite bizarre. Fascinating.

This is an enormous clue to the operation of these devices, but so few bothered to try to figure it out.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards