New TPU build

[powerunlimited]

to Farrah
How can you be sure that there are control coils?
If there are none then no design using control coils will work like the ones that have been made here.When i first came here i believed everything SM said untill JAck Durban said this,he lies even when he doesn't need to,so i checked the videos frame per frame,on one (lab one) he glues things that
really have no function on another there under tape,on one tape  blocks the view so you don't see its a continuous wire not 4 coils,you only have SMs word that theres control coils.

[Farrah Day]

PU

to Farrah
How can you be sure that there are control coils?

I'm not sure about anything, hence all the questions.  Still trying desperately to sort the fact from the fiction.

[BEP]

In all this searching for the design specs of the TPU there is one thing not considered.

It was said there were patents filed for the controls but not the coils. The control patents could be unrelated to a TPU but shown as part of another device.

Could it be no patents were filed for the coils because there was never a clear understanding of how the coils actually worked? It wouldn't be the first time a function was discovered and replicated without a true understanding of how it worked.

Just think a bit... IF the actual function was found then a patent application could be filed. This would allow the inventor to regain control of the benefits of the device sales.

Something to consider during your search. No clarity of design because there was none then or now?

Sorry about knocking your thread 'off-track'. Just took a break from the bench.

[powerunlimited]

To Farrah

Well you are almost going to have to make your own set up,however any tpu using control coils will fail.Inially i experimented with mock sets ups  since electronics is electronics ,control coils don't control nothing.A so called rotating field thats what  SM says does it,thats insane.
a suggestion build a very simple set up of your own design
check different things to see if is feasable or an obuscation .One guy here built one tpu that looked like the big tpu exactly didn't work,just like gambling
over time he spent $15,000 he was angry that it didn't work.A big tpu got stolen from the manison were it was video taped it was stolen by SMs boyfriend and others,jack durban talked about this.Funny isn;t it that they couldn't deplicate it even thou they had a working unit,that was over 10 years ago.Answer is when its off its off,there are no batteries in there doesn't need any.

[Farrah Day]

BEP

Just think a bit... IF the actual function was found then a patent application could be filed. This would allow the inventor to regain control of the benefits of the device sales.

I've no idea why only patents for the controls would be applied for, but I don't think that they would not file a patent on the whole device just because they did not fully understand its operation.  You demonstrate a working unit at a patent office, provide a little technical speil and there you have it.  People have successfully filed patents with far less proof of operation and understanding than this. Check out Stanley Meyer and the hundreds of various electrolyser patents and you will see exactly what I mean.

There is obviously no love lost between Mark and Durban, but when there is such contention between people right at the sharp end of the technology it does not bode well for us at the thick end.  Yet more disputes about who is credible and who isn't, who is providing real facts and who isn't, who is being truthful and who is bullshitting.

I thought Durban sounded genuine in the interview and is clearly intelligent, but then I've not heard SM speak, so I have no real frame of reference. Spherics clearly rates SM as a very clever man, while he clearly and seriously does not rate Durban at all. Spherics is very literate and also clearly intelligent, but then we do have to ask... who IS Spherics?

Trying to decipher everything, put it into any logical order and then make any sense of it all is quite a headache.

Oh, Spherics does say that a small oscillator cct powered by a small battery was used in order to kick start the device, which I always tended to think must be the case... but which of course rather depends on what or who you are willing to trust or believe.