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AC from Joule Thief Secondary/pick-up

Started by jeanna, June 16, 2009, 03:11:33 PM

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jeanna

Hi everybody,

I forgot to come here with the video links.
I assume you have all seen them from the other threads, but just for the record...
And many thanks to Bill for clearing the trash.  :D
Here are the links to the 2 videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_wAsAeUIHA
first radiantjt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ZFKDSxFTE
second Radiantjt

Bye the way, the joule thief I am using in the video is the very one that I am working on here. So, if it helps you to see it on a breadboard, there it is!

In fact, I have been trying more leds and more inductors as you will see on the split secondary, but I have not reported yet.

I am trying to make the amount of light even as a way to regulate what I am doing, and I am not able to regulate the 4 leds very well. The 3 works well with the inductor in the middle led pin, but there is no middle led in 4, or I need a 5th led, or I don't know what... yet.

Please enjoy the videos.

thank you,

jeanna

Doug1

Jeana
Very nice job I could listen to you talk all day. Did you pull the extra inductors off one by one to see what the changes in the scope would show as they are reduced in number? Could all those single inductors be wrapped onto a single ring teroid?

nievesoliveras

@jeanna

I know that it is very difficult, but a step by step explanation is needed to understand the complexity of your configuration.

This step by step must include the making of a stubllefield coil.

You can start with the joule thief you are using and all the ramifications added, one by one.
Then how it is connected to the circuit and how the stubblefield is included, also where to connect the measuring instruments.

I know that it is difficult, but that is the only way all the newbies including me, can make a replica of your work.

Just take your time and when you are sure that it wont fail begin to build the step by step explanation of your work.

Jesus

jeanna

@Doug1
If you look at the first drawings I made on this thread, you can see that I was using a wound toroid as inductor. It was working well.
When I tried to push the limits of the second pickup, I began to want to know what the inductance was. So, I found some inductors with known values.
These are all 220uH.

I will be looking at this from now on and I will be doing many experiments, and of course I will inform you.

@Jesus,
I guess you do know how much trouble it is to do a step by step.
I am still pulling Stubblefield generators out of the shoebox so I can look at them with the scope.

Basically,
The joule thief circuit is there with 2 secondaries. I am not sure if you have done this yet.

So, here is a start.
Make a joule thief and wrap some mag wire through the center some number of times.
If you figure 4 to 6 turns for each led, and put them in series, you will not blow them.
You can change how many lights from there, by changing one at a time.

To make a stubblefield generator, I am not sure, yet.

I tried one non galvanic one last night.
It just happens to resonate with 58Hz, and so it was picking up the lights in the room and the joule thief even added so much in the air, that there was 1.3volts coming out of the secondary.
Not only that, the secondary on that one is a step down from the primary, so, if I change it to a step up, I do not know what is going to happen.
So,I better not describe the NS generator yet.

So, for now, start reading from about February 2008 in localjoe's thread about NS generators. It is when we all started. I did a lot of testing and reporting on that thread before Bill opened his Bifilar thread. After that, I reported on Bill's thread.
Anyway, this will give you some history for your brain to absorb.

Then once you have a joule thief working with one secondary, start reading THIS thread to see how to make it a 2 tiered one etc.

In the meantime, I will start to make videos that include all of this.
Thank you for this suggestion.

jeanna

nievesoliveras

Quote from: jeanna on July 25, 2009, 12:38:51 PM
...
@Jesus,
I guess you do know how much trouble it is to do a step by step.
I am still pulling Stubblefield generators out of the shoebox so I can look at them with the scope.

Basically,
The joule thief circuit is there with 2 secondaries. I am not sure if you have done this yet.

So, here is a start.
Make a joule thief and wrap some mag wire through the center some number of times.
If you figure 4 to 6 turns for each led, and put them in series, you will not blow them.
You can change how many lights from there, by changing one at a time.
...
Thank you for this suggestion.

jeanna

For example, if I am going to light 6 LEDs, Do I need to wind 6 different secondaries of 6 turns each?
Is that what you mean?

Jesus