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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic motor?

Started by helioc, June 16, 2009, 06:49:50 PM

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Low-Q

Is it any reason why the magnets are angled? Could it work as good with pure angular (90 degree config.) magnets?

I think the idea was initially that magnetic flux follows a given path that looks like directed energy, like airpressure out of a nozzle that is looped back. Well, as magnetism isn't a moving force, it does not matter if the magnets on the wheel are angled or not. Permanent magnetism is a permanent force that isn't doing any work because it doesn't change in strength. However, you can guide magnetism wherever you want, but all magnetic flux will at the end be accounted for, so no change is done. Any influence between two magnets will be felt equally by both magnets, so their total exchange of forces will sum up in zero. With no force left, you have no force to accelerate mass, hence no energy can be carried out.

There is no point in trying to make a motor that is based on counterbalancing forces so to speak. It will ofcourse not work, because litterally nothing is happening.

Vidar

helioc

Quote from: Low-Q on June 21, 2009, 03:51:55 PM
Is it any reason why the magnets are angled? Could it work as good with pure angular (90 degree config.) magnets?

I think the idea was initially that magnetic flux follows a given path that looks like directed energy, like airpressure out of a nozzle that is looped back. Well, as magnetism isn't a moving force, it does not matter if the magnets on the wheel are angled or not. Permanent magnetism is a permanent force that isn't doing any work because it doesn't change in strength. However, you can guide magnetism wherever you want, but all magnetic flux will at the end be accounted for, so no change is done. Any influence between two magnets will be felt equally by both magnets, so their total exchange of forces will sum up in zero. With no force left, you have no force to accelerate mass, hence no energy can be carried out.

There is no point in trying to make a motor that is based on counterbalancing forces so to speak. It will ofcourse not work, because litterally nothing is happening.

Vidar


so you think the magnetic motor don't exist?

utilitarian

Quote from: helioc on June 21, 2009, 04:48:36 PM

so you think the magnetic motor don't exist?

It does not exist yet.

Ergo


Low-Q

Quote from: helioc on June 21, 2009, 04:48:36 PM

so you think the magnetic motor don't exist?
You're right. All working magnet motor proofs out there has allways got busted. And the reason is simply that you cannot get out energy from a static, unchangeable magnetic force. A magnetic force in a permanent magnet cannot change on demand without spending energy on it. All the methods used to shield magnets, has allways also affected other magnets in the system accordingly - because other magnets in the system is also magnets that is affected by the same material as in the shielding for one spesific magnet in that system. You cannot "teach" magnets to ignore a magnetic property that is used for shielding another magnet. If that was possible, you would have a system that is not in balance anymore, so it would work as a motor. You must spend energy to make a mass moving. In permanentmagnets there is only potential energy. As long this potential energy never change, no work is carried out. Very simple basics that everyone tries to deny.