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Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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powercat

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Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Hoppy

OK, I've reset my 555 control circuit supply to 6V and I can now see the waveform patterns that Aaron shows on his DSO. If you use a variable bench supply to power the control circuit and vary the voltage above and below 6V, you should see various points where the frequency suddenly increases and decreases. At 6.4V I get the high frequency banding effect reported by Aaron and the widths of the bands can be adjusted by very careful adgustment of the various pots. These effects are much reduced when the mosfet is driven by higher and proper amplitude gate voltages around 10V-12V. I'm now of the opinion that Aaron is seeing the effects of a mosfet being driven with an inadequate gate voltage. This is rather a strange effect that I've not seen before but there again, I have always driven my mosfets with an adequate amplitude and shaped gate signal!

Aaron will have his work cut out to prove that this effect is giving him COP17 - LOL. He certainly won't convince anyone that matters using the Ainslie method and procedure and as for his Bedini charger being able to automatically take a battery back to exactly the same capacity as before it was discharged, thats even more laughable!

Hoppy


poynt99

Quote from: MileHigh on August 14, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
He can make much better use of his equipment.  He should set up his favourite spike display and do the real power measurement with the two channels of the DSO and spit out the V-I product waveform and calculate the real power consumption in Excel and then do the thermal profiling.  That's the real deal.

MileHigh

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TinselKoala

Quote from: fuzzytomcat on August 14, 2009, 02:35:15 AM
Hi TK,

You must have missed my post #813 in the haze  ;)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg194978#msg194978

Fuzzy
:)

No, I didn't miss it. I have the part numbers written in my little book and I have checked my local suppliers and they aren't stocked. So I would have to order, again, a minimum quantity. And since I have tested many transistors already, none making OU that I can see, I really don't see the need, just to make a point to the wilby-trollbot.

And another thing about the bot: Look at the title of this thread. Every discussion on this thread has to do (or should) with the overunity claims of Rosemary Ainslie. If I talk about a mosfet being used as a paperweight, it should be clear to any thinking person reading this thread that I am referring to its usefulness as an OU paperweight.
The troll is starting to leak smoke out its ears at this point, trying to find something to whine about.
And preventing one's property from being defaced by vandals is different from being banned from a thread for speaking the truth. That should be clear even to a bot.
The bot is fond of citing thread page numbers, which is laughable to me, because most of those pages are of course filled with the same piss and shit from Wilby and my egging him on. Also found in those pages are many many instances of his LIE, where he told me that if I would tell him my address, which I did in good faith, that he would send me the correct MOSFET. Which he never, apparently, intended to do, the lying liar. This is exactly the sort of thing Ainslie's crewe does to the ringdown energy--adding up the same irrelevancies over and over and trying to use that bogus result as evidence of anything but their own idiocy. Just as the one-track bot continues to do.

@Harvey: As I pointed out several times, I know that the waveforms I showed in the last pic are not identical to what Aaron is showing. Can you make Aaron's waveforms? Can Anyone else?

(EDIT I see Hoppy is saying that he's got it, by using 6 volts in to the 555. OK, I'll try that.)

And how can Aaron be making "dozens" of these different oscillatory waveforms when nobody else is able to make any of them? I am genuinely puzzled by this. He accuses me of incompetence, but I am using the identical component values, as near as I can tell, that he is using  (and yes I have tried a miniscule shunt, it makes no difference to me).
Your statement about the early 555 circuit is also puzzling, as I and several other people have now built that circuit several times, and we all agree, that using the component values specified in the Quantum article, and trying both stated values for the one mislabeled cap, the circuit can't make a short duty cycle. So how did you, Harvey, get it to do so? I would gladly accept that I was wrong--I even begged for others to check my work at the time--but we all can't be wrong about that circuit. Even the Ainlsie crewe accepted that it was wrong, finally. SO what are you on about?

The one legitimate complaint is that I haven't shown the same waveforms as Aaron--recently. I do think I've gotten to Hoppy's condition. And I accept this criticism as valid. What I don't accept is accusations of incompetence and deliberate misrepresentation. I'm doing my best to report what I see as I see it, in a clear and REPRODUCIBLE manner. If I can't get the oscillations Aaron is seeing, it isn't due to my incompetence. It's due to the components being operated in some mystery regime of cold solder joints, insufficient input power, and "idiosyncratic" circuit design. Accusing me of incompetence because I can't seem to make my circuit do what Aaron's is doing, is like accusing a bus driver of incompetence because he can't park his bus in your living room.

But now we are informed by Peter that the critical  oscillations are occurring when the mosfet is OFF, and they look in Aaron's latest scope shots very much like the oscillations I showed riding on the OFF part of the signal when driven by Aaron's oscillator of 2 weeks ago.

And we are now informed that the  555 oscillator must be supplied with Vcc of 6 volts.

I refer all once again to the original Ainslie papers and claims, shrug my shoulders and continue.

Hoppy

You will notice that Aaron uses the fully charged battery for his 'charging' battery. This gives a much faster charging rate than discharge rate from the other battery which is at a much lower voltage having been used in his previous tests. If he were to reverse the two batteries or start with two batteries fully charged, it will be clearly seen over time that the source battery will discharge at a higher rate than charging battery is being charged.

Aaron has learnt how to please the 'New Age' punters! As it stands his source battery will still discharge faster than the other battery charges given enough time but we will not see this of course on any of his videos.

Hoppy