Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[Hoppy]

In reply to Rosemary: -

Aaron is tasked to demonstrate COP17 on behalf of Rosemary. That means that the circuit has to produce / capture / acquire a lot more energy than the user is putting into the circuit. If the temperature of the resistor does not rise above ambient and the meter does not climb above a zero reading because there is insufficient power available for the meter to register, then he cannot reasonably claim that the circuit is producing negative power.

There are a few conditional clauses here.  My own understanding is that any anomalous result should be recorded and, ideally replicable. 

Agreed, but this is a secondary mission and should not cloud the primary.

As soon as Aaron tweaks the circuit to increase power consumed, the flashing minus sign on his meter disappears. If he bothers to use a  sensitive analogue ammeter with say a 50uA scale, he will see clearly that his circuit is always drawing power from the battery no matter how he adjusts the waveform.

He has used a more sensitive ammeter - and for that matter various voltmeters.  Indeed beyond a certain level there appears to be some 'draw down' from the battery.  Until that point there appears to be a recharge of the battery.

I see no evidence of this, only his statement that he had charged his battery overnight.

Aaron has so far failed to demonstrate that his battery is charging with his load dissipating measurable heat above ambient and more importantly that the circuit is running at a COP above unity!

That is merely an opinion and is not based on the evidence. Logged

Agreed, but where is the evidence to alter my opinion?

Hoppy

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hi Hoppy.  I think you've missed out on his last video.  Check it out.  He shows the voltmeter defaulting to zero or below zero at a recorded value.  This simply confirms the measurements from the Tektronix.  He also shows the 'recharge' value of the gell cell battery.  If it had been on the lead acid I doubt that the change would have been evident as the wattage is greater.

I think Fuzzy is close to replicating this effect.  I know he's running the tests and seems to have found a really symmetrical waveform.  Bias to a loss rather than a gain - but I think he ran his test over 24 hours showing a lower than ambient result over the resistor.

[poynt99]

Aaron has shown no evidence that could be considered convincing that anything unusual is occurring in his circuit.

He has set the pots in such a way as to render the circuit "inoperable" and the current draw is almost nil. The fact that his battery recovered a minute amount of voltage overnight can not be construed as evidence of recharging. That is not proof.

Again Rosemary, if you take nothing away from this experience at all, please take this:

An indication of +/- 0.000 on a meter is inconclusive evidence of a measured signal.

In other words, one can not conclude that anything at all is being properly measured and indicated.

.99

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Poynt - if that was all that was measured then I would agree.  It was not.  You have taken one moment from a voltmeter reading and are asking me to take this as a definite reading of the whole experiment.  It is a reading of the average voltage taken across a 0.25 Ohm shunt. And this reading was done to satisfy your requirement.  The voltage reading off the Tektronix was more definitive.  And both readings give an average at zero or below.  Not zero voltage.  Zero average voltage.  There's a big difference between this and what you are implying.

Rather give us a detailed power analysis from your simulator.  Why are you not giving us full values of the entire experimental run?  You have got the rms value across the resistor.  You know the inductance on the resistor.  If you want credibility then play your cards openly.

[Hoppy]

Hi Hoppy.  I think you've missed out on his last video.  Check it out.  He shows the voltmeter defaulting to zero or below zero at a recorded value.  This simply confirms the measurements from the Tektronix.  He also shows the 'recharge' value of the gell cell battery.  If it had been on the lead acid I doubt that the change would have been evident as the wattage is greater.

I think Fuzzy is close to replicating this effect.  I know he's running the tests and seems to have found a really symmetrical waveform.  Bias to a loss rather than a gain - but I think he ran his test over 24 hours showing a lower than ambient result over the resistor.

Rosemary,

I had seen this video and I'm not impressed at all! The only way that I can simulate the negative readings he has shown on the video, is to pulse my meter lead. I then get exactly the same range of readings as Aaron on my 200mV range. I would ask Aaron to carefully check that one of his meter leads is not intermittently going open circuit or high resistance.

The fact remains that his circuit is working at an ridiculously low power level which is not even going to heat his resistor above ambient!

Hoppy