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Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

Started by TinselKoala, June 16, 2009, 09:52:52 PM

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MileHigh

The gang:

So we have a bit of a rumble going on on the other tab?  lol

Cookie-free Aaron:

QuoteIf there is ANY post that anyone finds offensive that is insulting to anyone here and appears to violate the terms and conditions and purpose of this forum, please click the icon at the top right of the message that looks like this:  and report it to the moderators.

Ah!, but who is moderating the moderator?  The sixty-four thousand dollar question.  How many times have you alleged that posters were stupid or idiots yourself in this thread?  That is offensive and insulting.  How about the day when you licked your chops and plotted my ass kicking after I persisted that you back up some of your statements with logical arguments?  Statements that you still haven't backed up to this day.  Where is my Acme bullhorn?

I am not going to try to pretend that I am without sin myself but I was kicked out for my ideas and for challenging you, and not for gratuitous offensive and insulting behaviour.  And THAT FACT is something that you should feel deep deep shame about.  Especially since it is starting to look more and more like "Team Classical" is going to win.

Try to pretend that you never read the above two paragraphs.

.99:

Putting the 555 ground on the same shunt resistor node as the MOSFET Source pin might not be all that bad, in fact it is arguably good.  Aaron was likely unaware of this when he did it.  With the 555 riding up and down on the same bouncing ground as the MOSFET, then you are effectively getting rid of the undesirable "wiggle" between the 555 output voltage and the MOSFET Gate input since the 555 ground reference and the MOSFET ground reference are now wiggling in tandem.

[EDIT]  I just realized that the 555 output will still wiggle with respect to the MOSGET gate input.  When the 555 ground bounces up, that means whatever is supplying the 555 with power (I'm feeling queasy) will bounce down - a complimentary wiggle in the opposite direction.  Dammit!!!  lol  <<< I love to hate the postion of the main shunt resistor. >>>

I have never been a fan of the shunt resistor location from Day One though, I don't like the fact that the MOSFET source is not at a true ground.  However, it is arguably all semantics if your Gate "high" drive voltage is always in the saturation region.

However, there is a potential down side here:  Even though the 555 is a very robust design and a true War Horse, there is the possibility to set up an undesirable feedback mechanism.  The 555 output goes high, and that switches on the MOSFET which starts to raise the ground of the 555, which then changes the comparator voltages, which could affect the 555 output timing.  Therefore the 555 output is potentially feeding back to itself, and this could cause undesirable effects.

It is worth repeating that the series trimpot for the 555's supply is enough to make a grown man cry and a dead man do something else.  Enough to make me *puke*.  I think poor Aaron has been assaulted on all sides for this one and continues to ignore it.  Big Brother in Singapore on Drugs! - Not Spice though!

MileHigh

Hoppy

I feel a little sorry for Rosemary who with virtually no electronics background, is putting her faith in the likes of Aaron and Harvey to  demonstrate that her circuit can operate at COP>1. Its a complete non starter and I think Rosemary now realises this. There is little left to say about this circuit but it is fascinating and entertaining to read various ideas about how electronic components can be badly interfaced in 'rats nest' wired circuits to produce copius amounts of 'free energy'.

Hoppy

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Hoppy on September 13, 2009, 05:02:12 AM
I feel a little sorry for Rosemary who with virtually no electronics background, is putting her faith in the likes of Aaron and Harvey to  demonstrate that her circuit can operate at COP>1. Its a complete non starter and I think Rosemary now realises this. There is little left to say about this circuit but it is fascinating and entertaining to read various ideas about how electronic components can be badly interfaced in 'rats nest' wired circuits to produce copius amounts of 'free energy'.

Hoppy

Hoppy - when we get to the point that COP>17 is clearly not replicable - I assure you I will be the first to admit defeat.  And regarding Aaron's talents - they are amazing.  May I remind you.  He romped home with oscillation spikes at 1000 volts when TK could not even get oscillation.  He switched at 3% where TK could not switch at 90% on.  He then rebuilt the quantum switch and found the same 'switching facility'.  So did others on this forum.  He then experimented with waveforms and managed a DC to AC converter where classicists could barely manage a spike.  And from what I've learned Harvey is definitely mainstream.  He just lends the project the kind of honest evaluation that you and MileHigh resist by prejudging the outcomes. 

powercat

Rosemary
Why is it that experienced members on this forum have not been able to replicate and reproduce the same results as Aaron  ???
1 is something being kept a secret ?
2 is this magic to gain publicity ?
Clearly something is going on here, and if TK can't do it I have got no chance

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: powercat on September 13, 2009, 11:48:48 AM
Rosemary
Why is it that experienced members on this forum have not been able to replicate and reproduce the same results as Aaron  ???
1 is something being kept a secret ?
2 is this magic to gain publicity ?
Clearly something is going on here, and if TK can't do it I have got no chance

cat

I have no idea Cat.  Fuzzy's reproduced Aaron's negative wave and, as far as I know is the only one who's tried.  TK set out with an agenda and, I think was trying to show me up as a Mylow? whoever he was.  I know of no-one else here who's tried except Hoppy.  And Hoppy doesn't access the measuring instruments that are needed for definitive evaluation.

EDIT Nothing is being kept secret.  I think there's a difference in the resistors being tested. And if I wanted publicity I wouldn't be talking on these threads. 
TK's object was to prove that there was NO GAIN.  He never actually gave a definitive measurement in any of his 'debunk' videos so am still not sure of the actual results.

2ND EDIT.  But having said that - it is also apparent that COP>17 is entirely elusive.  Hopefully it'll be evident with the equivalent resistors to the published.