Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[poynt99]

It's as MH mentioned. You really need to have a good handle on the use of these scopes and techniques because the quality of the acquired data depends on it. Grounding is also a huge factor, as I hope to illustrate shortly.

It's done. New measurements which have proved my theory:

POS = 0.9745W
PIL = 0.6390W = POSTL(D)
PIM = 0.2766W
PIS = 0.0588W
POSTL(C) = 1.3W

Final TRAA = 7ºC as in all tests.

"Cleaned up" the grounding and results are as noted. No net negative power at all.

According to my test plan, this would clearly indicate a COP = 2.034

Do I have any confidence that these measurements are correct? I believe they are the most accurate so far, but based on the last 4 measurements resulting in negative power in the MOSFET and simple grounding changes making this much difference, I'd have to say "no" at this point.

I also know, and it is quite clear, that the measurements overall are low because a PIL of only 0.639W will not result in a TRAA of 7ºC. This based on my control test indicating that 1.3W was required in the load resistor for a TRAA of 7ºC.

It should be noted that if one examines the last few posts of mine where I did the number crunching on both mine and Glen's data, that if one were only to do the calculations for POS and PIL, and the grounding in the circuit is such that the values become skewed (as I have clearly shown they can be), that this would lead one to conclude the circuit is COP>1.

To illustrate, looking at Glen's data from the "2_40us_520V-01_10_08_09.xlr", we have:

POS = 9.3813W
PIL = 95.90W

and from his data "2us_520V_10_05_09_.xlr", we have:

POS = -1.289W
PIL = 96.63W

Both cases appear to show a COP >>1, and in the second case even a net power going back into the battery supply.

I think the DC tests need to be done by Glen to confirm for himself that 96WDC into his resistor will not only cause it to exceed 130ºF, but might get things red-hot. This IMO is the first thing he needs to do before moving ahead with more data dumps.

It is either going to validate or invalidate his data, and if it ends up invalidating it, then it is time to start over and look at the grounding etc., because clearly the measurements coming from the scope would not be correct in this case.

.99

[MileHigh]

Jibbguy:

I read your rant and can make a few rebuttals.  First of all, why the "Aaronspeak?"  Everything that I have ever posted is all wrong?  I don't understand how how a flashlight works?  You have got to be kidding.  I am just having fun, and learning and trying to teach something when I can.  And I am willing to make some firm points sometimes.  That's it!  It would be fun to see this arrive at a complete and full conclusion that everyone can agree on, that's the dream.

And you have got to be kidding with the alleged MIB ties.  Anybody that is reasonably astute can just read my postings and decide that for themselves.  Don't put yourself in the class of people that look at clips of the Space Shuttle in orbit where every piece of frozen tumling feces is thought to be a UFO.  Especially the ones that are so close to the camera that they look like giant circular space ships hundreds of kilometers in diameter.

Then there is your cheer for the promised land of the New World Energy Order.  Well I would like to see that too.  There is an argument that there is no god, no angels, any ETs would have to be light years away and can't get here just like so far it looks like we can't get there either, there is no free lunch, and you and I are just matter that has become aware of its own existence and we can't win against the law of increasing entropy.  We are both going to die and the world will go on.

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing

Now it's been ten thousand years, man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterday

- Zager & Evans

So perhaps in the year 9595 humans will have extinguished themselves out, a very common theme that you used to hear when I was growing up because of Mutual Assured Destruction.

Some alien archaeologists will find a server hard drive buried under 70 feet of rock and dirt and extract this very posting off of the disk.  The data will be eagerly read by the free energy researchers on the planet Zelda.  Go figure!  lol

MileHigh

[poynt99]

I forgot that Glen has already performed some temperature profiling on his load resistor. So let's use his highest tested input power to illustrate:

DCV = 8.8V
DCA = 0.9A
PIL(C) = 7.92W

Final resistor temperature = 164ºF

Clearly, 96W into that same resistor (apparently only able to raise the resistor temperature to 130ºF in his test) is going to heat things up tremendously beyond 164ºF, and so unfortunately we have to conclude that the scope measurements are in error.

.99

[PaulLowrance]

Are you guys still messing around with false voltage spikes on loads due to scope & probe parallel capacitance?

Please send me a message when someone measures the load & mosfet power production by means of heat generation, and measures the battery power output by measuring DC current & voltage. It would take about 1 day to that simple experiment.

Paul

[MileHigh]

Hey!  The balloon deal was a hoax!  I told you so!   

.99:

POS = 0.9745W
PIL = 0.6390W = POSTL(D)
PIM = 0.2766W
PIS = 0.0588W
POSTL(C) = 1.3W

Those numbers are at least looking like they add up which is great.  Now I have to go back to your test spec to read up on some acronyms!  lol

Still haven't gotten there yet though!

All:

Yes 95 watts would make for a too hot to touch load resistor for sure.  It is worth it to put a resistor between thumb and forfinger and actually feel what 1/2 watt, 1 watt, two watts feels like.  Then wrap your hand around a big white ceramic 10-watt resistor and feel what 10 watts feels like.  Then check the heat produced by your blow drier.  Just to get a sense of what heat wattage is all about.  That gives you a "nose" for heat wattage.  Be careful because this is NOT temperature at all - it is the continuous "shovelling" of heat into your hand.  That is a completely separate deal from just feeling what the temperature of something is.

MileHigh