Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[WilbyInebriated]

I am getting the breach of unity claim directly from Rosemary's energetic forum postings.  Breach of unity is technically a different claim from COP.  Whether a COP claim has been made or not, I am not sure.  I am referring to the overunity claim, which is an efficiency claim.  If you have a different definition of overunity, let's have it.  I am going by the most commonly accepted definition here, meaning (total useful energy output) / (total energy input from all sources).  Do you disagree with this definition, or do you disagree that a claim as to overunity, as I have defined it, has been made?  I am sure Ms. Ainslie herself can clear this up, in any case.

And I do not see how you can say that your opinion regarding the very central question of this thread is irrelevant.  You just do not want to admit that you don't believe in the overunity of the circuit either.  Or maybe you do believe it, but cannot articulate why.  Either way, the opinion is relevant, assuming it rests on facts presented.

i disagree with your definition.

opinions are simply that, opinions. they are NOT relevant. the 'very central question of this thread' cannot be answered with opinions. well, maybe in your fantasy world they can...

[utilitarian]

i disagree with your definition.

What is your definition of overunity, then?

[utilitarian]

opinions are simply that, opinions. they are NOT relevant. the 'very central question of this thread' cannot be answered with opinions. well, maybe in your fantasy world they can...

And yes they can.  An opinion is a synthesis of the given data.  So based on the data presented so far, do you think the circuit is overunity or not?  Surely the synthesis of the evidence presented is relevant to state in this thread?  No?

[Harvey]

Those people do not care about trying to falsify their claims, which every good scientist should try to do prior to asserting something as world-shaking as "hey there is extra energy here coming from NOTHING!!!!". 

You will never demonstrate anything to their satisfaction, as they can always point to something or other and claim your tests are deficient.  If their device is green, and your replication is off-green, they are going to claim the colors are all wrong and you should do an EXACT replication before you should be so bold as to say anything negative.

I agree, just walk away.  The burden is on the inventor to demonstrate overunity, so let her and her team do that.

It would appear you are missing some information:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg207590;topicseen#msg207590

Excerpt:

Therefore, this specific replication is intended to show the source current (and therefore the source power) provided to the circuit in comparison to the work done by the circuit. We are open for suggestions and encourage other replicators to provide a falsification test to this end. This may be a good thing for Poynt to focus on as he already has much of the materials at hand.

[Harvey]

I am getting the breach of unity claim directly from Rosemary's energetic forum postings.  Breach of unity is technically a different claim from COP.  Whether a COP claim has been made or not, I am not sure.  I am referring to the overunity claim, which is an efficiency claim.  If you have a different definition of overunity, let's have it.  I am going by the most commonly accepted definition here, meaning (total useful energy output) / (total energy input from all sources).  Do you disagree with this definition, or do you disagree that a claim as to overunity, as I have defined it, has been made?  I am sure Ms. Ainslie herself can clear this up, in any case.

And I do not see how you can say that your opinion regarding the very central question of this thread is irrelevant.  You just do not want to admit that you don't believe in the overunity of the circuit either.  Or maybe you do believe it, but cannot articulate why.  Either way, the opinion is relevant, assuming it rests on facts presented.

You may wish to review:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4314-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie-63.html#post64112

and

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg205166;topicseen#msg205166