Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[Paul-R]

I have pissed off Lindemann openly making jokes about his excitement about every piece of shit which has “free energy” in the title...

They don't need you.

And if Stefan does not do something about the troublemakers here, then he will end up owning a big box with nothing in it.

[fuzzytomcat]

I have tried different ethernet card, IP, and removed the cookie - can't even see if they removed my posts - and now I don't even try anymore â€" there are only blind believers in theirs messiah (Rosemary) left there anyway. If they are serious about replication and measurements - it is just a question of time when poor woman will have many negative results reported. Then there will be interesting to watch her reaction. But if the guys will get lost in paying attention to the fact that one resistor is warmer than the other, instead of concentrating on the input/output energy values â€" than the Rosemary’s virus may spread and stay here for longer.

I have pissed off Lindemann openly making jokes about his excitement about every piece of shit which has “free energy” in the title and was a bit harsh for blunt Rosemary who couldn’t answer the key questions - so perhaps they started messing up in the system to block me like Peter warned.

Hi henieck,

Thought I'd stop by with "three" friends from Energetic Forum, and I read that your having problems with accessing the Forum ...... TK is exactly correct about the options of banning someone and one is by IP address, sorry dude. The only way around this is if you have a broadband connection is to unplug it for 8 - 12 hours or use the reset button on the back of the modem to gain a new IP address from your ISP provider through automated means, the other is to use a proxy server. This I know being a moderator on several Forums (not energetic forum) and being able to use SMF and vBulletin software.

As your familiar with the RA circuit and have a good knowledge of electronics I think you wold agree that if the circuit works great ...  if it doesn't the first person that figures out whats wrong and corrects the problem using the old "copyright" notice will have some exclusive rights, so maybe it's off to the races so to speak? I find the circuit interesting, possibly unique and RA is the one that came up with what is being discussed no one else but her co-author "years" ago, and no one can take that away .....

Oh ya ..... many times semi conductor manufactures years ago and even today like many other company's sell mis-marked or out of tolerance items to 3rd world countries, so as not to lose money on products.

Fuzzy

[henieck]

witsend says:
Ramset - your question as to what functions generator I used? May I ask why you are asking this? I've never used one other than for testing purposes in sundry engineering labs. I've always used a 555

- guys, Rosemary said in few places if you add everything she says together â€" that her “revelation” will work with many different transistors, very wide range of frequency, rather low duty cycle and (implicitly) almost any resistive coil (I would add that it can be any coil â€" even one winding of a transformer+ resistor). You don’t have to copy her circuit literally and search for special resonance and you  don’t have to hang up on the specific components form that article â€" please ask her about it if you don’t believe. She even wonders “how is it possible that anybody can not see it”. Reading her words it seems like what she is talking about is almost “everywhere”. I have an impression that she doesn’t understand why exactly all of you are trying to use IRFPG50 (or something) transistor or asking about some strange to her technicalities about the timer or something or wire. It doesn’t matter so much. Just take any transistor within the range of the specification, any spiral of wire  and start pulsing this idiotic circuit. You will see, that when you connect the flyback diode â€" the current measured from the battery to the coil will increase. In fact it will increase in response to any other load - its own battery is just the special case which makes things hard too see at first. Now sweep a little the duty cycle (or freq) so after when you connect the diode to the battery again â€" the gain will be the biggest (can be almost double â€" “but always little less than that” â€" her own words.) This is it, leave the diode permanently connected now. There you have it. According to her this current which is now flowing from the battery to the coil is the magical free energy flyback (which can both charge the battery and give heat at the same time)  while it is just increased intake to compensate the flyback’s load (battery charging). There is deceiving LOOP, which she cannot properly understand, she makes serious logical errors about its nature and based on that makes entirely wrong calculations. It is like swapping multiple times a small amount of  money between bank accounts (loop) and later seeing the volume of trade (amperage) thinking that she is a millionaire(free energy). This is all that is to it. It is painfully pitiful. You are searching for the magical frequency or transistor in the clouds â€" while it is a piece of shit on the pavement… Look there! 
Below I just paste my results which are exactly the same as those on the other forum already â€" so it +-complete set in one place of one replication attempt.

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I  have been busy on an uninterrupted basis for two days with this project. The core I have made from an ordinary brick using diamond blade cutter and drill machine. It is 200mm long, has 35mm diameter, weights 300g and has 10mm diameter hole for temperature probe. On this I wound 111turns of unknown resistive wire I have already had somewhere. The coil of wire is 138mm long. Using coil calculator http://www.captain.at/electronics/coils/ I determined its inductance â€" 96.62 microH. Its resistance is determined by measurements and calculations form Ohm law and checked by multimeter â€" so it is 4,64Ohms. I have 12V motorbike flooded battery of unknown capacity. Because of that I made 10 hours controlled discharge using known resistance to determine its characteristics. Every 15 minutes I measured voltage (under load) and in that way determined how many Joules it can deliver from full charge correspondingly to any lower voltage, correspondingly to any degree of discharge (within reasonable range of course, I didn’t discharge it lower than 10,5V). From full charge to 10.5V (under average 0.3A load) it delivered 3Ah â€" so I don’t know- perhaps it is rated 5Ah or something…
I used 2SK1120 transistor http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/toshiba/2998.pdf and BY448V diode for the flyback http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/vishay/86006.pdf As a signal source I used home made signal generator based on timer chip NE555 made in such a way that I had possibility to change duty cycle as well (influencing at the same the f, but it is sufficient). For measurements I used only most typical mulimeters (analog display type for Amperes). I didn’t use shunt resistor, because I think there is already calibrated one inside the multimeter, so all the current went through ammeter. Voltage meter was all the time hooked directly to the battery terminals.

First of all I played a little bit to get acquainted with the mysterious circuit. By varying adjustable resistor I found that the flyback gains the most when I have minimal setting on the variable resistor, so only the value of protective resistor 510Ohms which I had in place from different application was left between timer and transistor. In this setup I have noticed that when the flyback diode is connected back to battery â€" than amperage almost doubles comparing to the situation with the diode disconnected. This flyback gain, like Rosemary said, was present in very wide spectrum of frequency and duty cycle except higher frequencies, and was always less then the input value. To investigate further the nature of this flyback I collected its charge to capacitor 47000microF. It took 25s to reach over25Volts on that capacitorâ€" and using the calculator http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/capacitor-charge-calculator.php  I have determined quantity of the collected energy. Unfortunately the result of this simple calculations is that catching the energy to capacitor makes input amperes (translated further to Joules) go exactly directly proportionally higher. At ca. 13V the amount of current flow increased by approximately 50mA during this exercise. That means that by using the flyback diode we recycle the same energy Clearly, unlike proposes Rosemary -  my coil “knows” that somebody switched off the current and is trying to collect the impulse from collapsing magnetic field â€" and automatically, proportionally increases its energy input to “compensate” this so to speak. No free energy here… Perhaps other transistor or other “freaquency” will do… Btw, I don’t know exact frequency yet â€" I have to move my circuit and hook up to computer to see what was my final choice in terms of kHz, but probably I ended up somewhere between 2-3kHz, and 5-10% duty. I don’t know yet…

But I was determined to check if maybe there was something in interaction with the battery like Bedini maintains, or that by other mysterious phenomenon it would result in much less discharging of the battery. So I fully charged the battery again, and logging everything started to pulsate the coil with disconnected flyback diode from the positive terminal of the battery. The test duration was 3h. Using on average 3.51W it rose the temperature of my resistive coil by max 9.4 degrees C while the temperature of transistor’s heat sink rose more distinctively to touch although being aware of it’s drainage of energy I didn’t measure that at this stage. Similarly to the way I determined the characteristics of my battery â€" I collected all the records and made charts (temperature to time, voltage drop to time, energy cumulatively delivered to time. That was my baseline very nicely comparable to the previously obtained characteristics, and I was ready to connect the magical flyback diode now…(!)

Again fully recharged the battery (every step takes hours, but at least recharging goes by itself). I have noticed that my long time unused battery every successive charge was gaining somewhat higher initial voltage â€" but all that was without any flyback diode whatsoever, only thanks to intensive charging of that long time unused battery (only refreshing charge once every few months). Anyway, having all the collected reference points in the form of previous measurements of performance I started the great final experiment with the magical flyback diode…

There was slightly higher initial voltage (0.16V higher comparing to no flyback example), but the battery was very freshly recharged and I have started the experiment almost immediately. I was one step from proving to myself existence of free energy, so I was excited probably almost as much as Lindemann sitting in self perpetuating lavatory…

Yes, indeed since the temperature went higher than without the diode, but nothing like10-fold increase of input energy would do, or even 30% This time instead of 9.4 degrees â€" it was 11.4 â€" so quite some sudden percentage gain, beyond possibility of measurement error. (btw, I used home purpose electronic thermometer).
I thought perhaps there was a little gain and some tweaking would increase it, but very quickly I have noticed, that during this flyback operation â€" the transistor is completely cold. So that is the answer to the slightly higher temperature of the coil â€" the heat normally dissipated in transistor, thanks to higher voltage was “transferred” to the coil. To finally check this I was ready to put both transistor and the coil into small insulation box â€" so together it might achieve over 40 degrees or something â€" and this way measure the total energy dissipated as heat and get the ultimate confirmation of the second law of thermodynamicsâ€" but to me at this moment that would be additional waste of time. I saw the flyback in action, thanks to relatively good inductance to resistance ratio it was almost as big as the input (but less of course). It cannot be much bigger â€" because even Rosemary says it is always smaller than the input â€" so there is no room for magic â€" unless other components will enable some different kind of electricity come into existence. But again, I doubt it because Rosemary says that it “works” with many different transistors. This also explains why there is very little “gain” in Rosemary’s opinion in AC 50Hz applications â€" because the voltage drops very slowly, and this causes very little voltage spike comparing to abrupt disconnect of current in “our” circuit we were concentrating on…

Anyhow â€" no matter how you translate the energy: either high voltage and few amperes â€" or low voltage and many amps â€" the amount of energy in it is exactly the same. I saw something like transcript of Tesla’s interview and he explained the time-compression of electricity quite clearly. He compared it himself to a hammer. To swing a hammer you don’t need very high force (analogy to voltage) â€" but you do it using some distance (amperes). Now- when hammer hits something it decelerates on extremely short distance compared to what it took to make a swing. The harder the surface â€" the shorter way to stop â€" and by the laws of physics it generates enormous force, because the higher acceleration, the more it has to compensate by increased force. If deceleration was entirely sudden- that is in zero of time and distance â€" the force would be infinite... Think about this for a while… Literally infinite, it is no joke, every physics teacher will confirm this to you. Take a closer look at the F=ma formula. In reality there is always some plasticity of material and deceleration occurs at certain, greater than zero distance- tiny fractions of mm â€" and because of that generates unbelievable high, short surge of force (equivalent to voltage spike with almost no amperes- distance). So there is no magic amplification of energy in hammer action â€" exactly the same in and out â€" but force can be enormous, it term of pressure that most people would refuse to believe the numbers. The coil to my knowledge works exactly the same way. But there is something like information war in energy field â€" and judging form examples of legendary Howard Johnson, who was supposed to invent permanent magnet “perpetum mobile”, but who didn’t have any turning device in his workshop; form Rosemary’s example and probably others â€" I am getting more skeptical about this free energy thing. Does anybody know any other device which is a bit more promising than that one, worth of duplicating? Seriously, there is so much to dig through, that perhaps somebody could help with this â€" what happened to magnetic Vankel idea, water fuel cell, Bedini’s motors or other. Is any of that successful? Can anybody generate any “free” E? or everybody is generating free E but nobody mysteriously can close the loop :/ Is everybody in this field going to end up the same way â€" advising to use less electricity and drive 20HP automobiles, at best? Don’t you plane to accelerate at all? This is the same problem with understanding simple F=ma equation and its consequences (force equals mass time acceleration). Can work only if you lower the whole mass proportionally, or agree to accelerate many, times slower, not even talking about maximal speed or going uphill.

In the final conclusion - the circuit, thanks to the diode, circulates the same energy twice. Ammeter shows almost double value of what really is dissipated as heat. In the end of the multi hour exercise, the total sum of Joules which went through the meter is ridiculously high â€" nearly double of what is really available in the battery (determined in the previously conducted controlled discharge) â€" therefore it may give the false impression that battery is not discharging that quickly. (so many amps went through but the battery still keeps strong . Moreover, during operation without the flyback diode the transistor gets hot. During operation with that diode connected back to the battery -  the transistor does not get that hot. That energy is being “moved” to, and finally turned into heat in the coil â€" what may give another faulty impression, that not only we have battery charging â€" but also the same extra energy which charges the battery, also somehow rises up the coil’s temperature

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It has tried to trick me to believe that it used 56000J while it really used 34000J to heat up the resistive element which can be heated directly to the same degree without transistor switching losses using just 18000J
The main point is that thanks to the flyback diode there is a redundant, almost doubled flow of energy permanently present in this circuit. It is always less than double, because the coil is not capable of giving back more than it was delivered to make the magnetic field establish, and always loses some part of energy as heat in the process How much - depends on timing. With the additional, looped current you can interpret it differently. I say “it tried to trick me to believe it used 56000J” - because I measured total amount or current flowing. Depends where you place the meter you may come to the conclusion, that this additional current can be not added like I did but subtracted if you measure the reverse flow to the battery, and in this case you may come to equally false conclusion, that it used not 34+22=56 but 34-22=12. In this case I should have written, that “It has tried to trick me to believe that it used 12000J while it really used 34000J...” Doesn’t matter either way.

The point is that the flow goes to the battery terminal and returns to the coil â€" and if you measure “backward” ghost flow (but real!) to the battery it falsely represents itself as charging current. Then at the battery terminal you can think of it, that it turns to the coil again in the loop â€" and if you measure it in this direction like I did â€" it shows that almost double current is present. The point is that this ghost current doesn’t do any work, just circulates here, introduces confusion and shouldn’t be taken into account in power distribution, either way. It is like having the same constant multiplier on both sides of an equation â€" you can just forget about it as well, it doesn’t matter to the equation at all, and the whole story behind the equation will become clearer.

So to have the external, objective reference point I have made the discharge curve of my small battery. During the course or 10h I discharged it to 10,6V and calculated all the Joules along the way. This way, by referring to it the actual battery voltage (under the same load) I know how much energy the battery has already spent to this point. By this reference I know, that despite strange current present, in which I don’t know how much is really dissipated and how much of it is just going round and round â€" I can obtain how much from the battery was really extracted, even if there was any charging present. The battery makes all the real time measurements â€" it is just the matter to get them translated to real energy reading- that is why I made this controlled discharge first. After 180min of the circuit’s work, the battery’s voltage was 11,73V â€" what by reference to the freshly obtained battery’s characteristics curve means that there was ca 34000J missing from the battery’s full capacity. I have the exact measurements, this is just rounded… This is generally exactly the same value compared to the run without the diode connected at all. In this case after 180 min run the voltage was 11,71V and the Joules obtained form 15min intervals measurements and further interpolated were also very close. 37450 Joules corresponds to 11,71V in the reference curve â€" and value calculated during the course of the experiment shows, that it was used 38200J (as I mentioned I had slightly better voltage after every next battery charging, so it may account for this small difference). Meantime, measurements of flyback run shows that in this time frame 56800J were traveling from the battery terminal to the transistor. It is as simple and as idiotic as that… If you place the meter differently and just look in this one place loosing the big picture from the sight entirely - you will be enabled to subtract and have in your thoughts free energy for a while. Rosemary has had for many years, for example…

Finally, I have also had the temperature curve from both runs at my disposal. For the flyback operation it showed maximal temperature (reached after 90min) 33,4deg C, but for the next two hours it stabilized between 32,7 and 33,1 degC. So I have connected variable power supply and figured out after few hours of adjusting and stabilizing the temp output, that I only need 1,68W of ordinary DC power to obtain the same temperature at the same level. This gives us that at the same point of time there would be just 18150J needed to obtain the same curve. I am aware, that output from the battery is lowering with time and the power supply is not â€" but we could estimate this and perhaps change the final number to 18500 or 19000 to have perfect common denominator characteristicsâ€" which doesn’t change much…

[henieck]

The only way around this is if you have a broadband connection is to unplug it for 8 - 12 hours or use the reset button on the back of the modem to gain a new IP address from your ISP provider through automated means.

- I did that, waited just seconds, but didn't check if I really had new IP. I didn't know I had to wait hours for new one. Thanks.

Oh ya ..... many times semi conductor manufactures years ago and even today like many other company's sell mis-marked or out of tolerance items to 3rd world countries, so as not to lose money on products.

- I am from Poland, very probable may have many out of tolerance parts here as well.

[ramset]

henieck
No beating around the bush from you [I like that]
Welcome to the forum,you come at a good time a lot of things going on.
My personal view on OU is very similar to TK
and perpetual motion?Its the norm in our world ,every thing, every where is Always in motion

Welcome
Chet