Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[fuzzytomcat]

I didn't mention the Sola isolation transformers? OOPS, sorry.

Thats great to isolate the 120 volt or 120/240 volt loads almost as good as a UPS, but that doen't address the issue of grounding ....... you know this or you should ......

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg191649#msg191649

As you know I'm sure, in a residential area as many as five (5) homes can be connected  to one utility transformer supplying 120/240 volt "with a common neutral" to each home and bonded to a grounding system (if there) possibly inducing unwanted results in simulations of replications and measurements of results.

Grounding connections needed in the operation of "DC" semi conductor circuits cannot share United States "AC" utility grounding systems bonded to a neutral sharing 120 volt loads, especially in a residential area. There's to much intermittent neutral line noise this is why many replications of devices invented in areas with "only" have 240 volt with "NO" 120 volt or neutral connections can use a water pipe, gas line, plate ...... that is in "earth" because there is nothing but a ground. A bonded ground wire to a neutral all connected together running around your home, the next door neighbors and everyone connected to the utility transformer where your power comes from ..... look at the wire connections on a tele-pole, three wires ...... two hot ..... one neutral (bonded to ground) .... and in your CB panel where by "code" the neutral and ground is bonded.

[TinselKoala]

Thats great to isolate the 120 volt or 120/240 volt loads almost as good as a UPS, but that doen't address the issue of grounding ....... you know this or you should ......

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg191649#msg191649

Grounding connections needed in the operation of "DC" semi conductor circuits cannot share United States "AC" utility grounding systems bonded to a neutral sharing 120 volt loads, especially in a residential area. There's to much intermittent neutral line noise this is why many replications of devices invented in areas with "only" have 240 volt with "NO" 120 volt or neutral connections can use a water pipe, gas line, plate ...... that is in "earth" because there is nothing but a ground. A bonded ground wire to a neutral all connected together running around your home, the next door neighbors and everyone connected to the utility transformer where your power comes from ..... look at the wire connections on a tele-pole, three wires ...... two hot ..... one neutral (bonded to ground) .... and in your CB panel where by "code" the neutral and ground is bonded.

What is your point? How can I have ground loops if my instruments are all on line isolation transformers and I use a single point cold water pipe earth ground?
I agree that this is not the best scheme, but I am at home in my basement, ffs. If somebody wants to pay me, I will take the thing to my lab and power it up inside a complete microwave-tight Faraday room, with full isolating power supplies, laboratory reference standards, and of course a good earth ground.
But why?? To reproduce a rumor?
Forget it.

I'll tell you what, Fuzzy. You test your build the way you want to, and I'll test mine, and then we will swap builds and repeat. If you can show significant differences in measurements from what I get, I'll strip naked and paint my balls red and photograph it for you. If we get substantially the same results, you do the same.

What about it? Put your balls where your mouth is? So to speak...

[TinselKoala]

I hope this thread is preserved for posterity. If I ever again need to illustrate to a crowd of freshmen some examples of logical fallacy, this is the place to come to.

Any more examples of the Straw Man argument? That last one didn't hold up very well, if you ask me.

[fuzzytomcat]

What is your point?

Grounding and Grounding Loops

How can I have ground loops if my instruments are all on line isolation transformers and I use a single point cold water pipe earth ground?

Proper operation of DC semi conductors using a AC grounding system

I agree that this is not the best scheme, but I am at home in my basement, ffs. If somebody wants to pay me, I will take the thing to my lab and power it up inside a complete microwave-tight Faraday room, with full isolating power supplies, laboratory reference standards, and of course a good earth ground.

All one would have to do is pound in a ground rod connect a wire for DC replication purposes of European made devices and testing of them you could scope between the new isolated ground rod and your "sink" connection and see whats there ......

But why?? To reproduce a rumor?

what rumor ??

Forget it.

I'll tell you what, Fuzzy. You test your build the way you want to, and I'll test mine, and then we will swap builds and repeat. If you can show significant differences in measurements from what I get, I'll strip naked and paint my balls red and photograph it for you. If we get substantially the same results, you do the same.

What about it? Put your balls where your mouth is? So to speak...

How rude for for me just pointing out a error and now you have "isolation transformers" it's the first you mentioned them when I point something out in a civil manner.

If I ever again need to illustrate to a crowd of freshmen some examples of logical fallacy, this is the place to come to.

Any more examples of the Straw Man argument? That last one didn't hold up very well, if you ask me.

I have nothing more to add to this as I assume your talking about me and all I did was point out if your to be the debunker of debunkers a error .... just like you I do have skills and it's obvious that you have nothing to add but a fancy test lab thats not needed ..... just a ground rod .....

Forget it.

I have better things to do also than to be toyed with, good luck with "YOUR" thread

[NerzhDishual]

Hi belligerents 

My2cents.
To, perhaps(?), avoid too much discussions about measurements
of what is going on versus what is going out (NRG-Wise), I propose
the following set-up (see picture).

I have already made some colorimetric measurements with a
Peter-D.-Davey-Like device.
You can consult:
http://freenrg.info/Sonettes_Davey/calcul_sonette.htm
My COP was from 0.91 to 1.10. Due to amateurish measurements,
I do not claim any OU. 

But, with the R. Ainslie CCT, If the COP is so huge as claimed (17) we
should be able to test it in spite of lack of bats and losses in the DC supply. 
IMHO, a COP> 3 would be conclusive. What do you think?

Very Best

PS: just in case, the attached picture is also here:
http://freenrg.info/Pic/Proposed_Set_up.jpg