Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[jibbguy]

Someone else, from Eastern Europe as well i believe (not that it matters), has replicated at least some aspects of the circuit successfully now.

That and Luc's very interesting related findings make it more like "2 to 2" by my count.  So instead of being "Supreme Court Judges of Technology", some here would appear to have been "demoted" to being just members of the Jury    But don't worry, this is still an important and worthy position. We can argue the actual percentages of accuracy in these particular "replications" or similar circuits: But that is not the point... Which is that the opinions are NOT monolithic, nor are the present results as "conclusive" as some here make them out to be

So let's wait until we get 8 more peeps (the more the better) to properly build and document this to get a full "Jury of 12 Peers". Thus the questions can be answered, the speculation ended, and the technology either moved forward into multiple applications with much importance both empirically and theoretically... Or "shelved" as being a good idea with much promise and interesting aspects, that didn't pan-out as expected in the end.

Imo one of the reasons we have not gotten more attempts to date here is because of all the constantly repeated negative results: It stands to reason that fewer peeps want to replicate something they heard over and over won't work.... But simply having a failed replication by a person, then trying to use the lack of more attempts as "proof"; does not work either.... Because the people who come to these forums all have their own projects, their own lines of research, and they replicate things on their own schedules... Not anyone else's.

Regarding Energetic Forums: No one there gives a hoot if the Members who frequent the Energy section have anything at all to do with the other sections there. As regards to it being "Religious", that is false: It is "Spiritual" in nature, and falls under the category of "self-help" ; but like i said you can take that part or leave it, and no one will care at all  

What they do care about there is having polite, open-minded, meaningful, constructive, and sincere discussions and debates on technology. This means that those who participate should not attack others for their honestly-held views; nor should they try to use the forum as a advertising campaign for their own opinions, constantly repeating them like irritating ads on TV (or government propaganda)... Growing more insistent and less polite by the post.

Good forums, like this one, embrace the concepts of "Free Speech". However, if the Admins are wise; they do not allow some to use that as a weapon against the general health of the forum. Start you own forum, and see what it takes: It is not so easy to determine the best route, no one can look into another's heart. All there is to go on in making these decisions are the actions of the people in question. If you have been "mis-judged", perhaps you should have thought of that and thus changed your tack when warned, to keep from being "misunderstood". I'm sure the Admins themselves will tell you they are not omniscient; but they also have a duty to the others. And it is important to remember none of this exists in a vacuum: If you are rude and derogatory on another forum (this is a small F-E "world", after all), it can make an effect elsewhere; and it becomes "fair game" for these kinds of difficult considerations; possibly even tip the balance. Thus the danger of "widebanding" your opinions lol

People had their say there; but with some it was becoming repetitious and starting to show signs of deep disrespect and lack of concern towards others, and so they were checked (meaning as in "chess").

No one there was really dissuaded from trying out the circuit, nor was anyone "afraid" of anything (a disgusting and demeaning suggestion).... We should not expect peeps to drop everything else they are doing to start a new build because of one person's results; no matter how insistently they post or how many forums they post it in. When dealing with others we must at least try to view from the other's perspective... If our interest really is finding the Truth, and not pushing our own version of it for some obscure reason. It is important to remember that the louder and more insistent the claims, the more personally invested the one making them becomes (because the "stakes" of possible loss of face grow with each pronouncement)... Thus their objectivity can begin to be legitimately questioned. This of course goes for both sides of any argument: And how this is handled by the person goes to their credibility.

But i believe the real Truth behind this circuit and possible discovery will come out in the end, either way: When the FULL JURY makes the deliberation, and not just the self-appointed Supreme Judges. Is there some critical time factor here that we are missing, that it is so important to rush to judgment? If so please let us know

[the_big_m_in_ok]

gyulasun said, on Reply #380, this thread:

I have been unable to access the energeticforum.com since last Saturday afternoon.  First I turned to my internet provider but I still wait for their answer (it was the weekend they have not done anything). 

This morning I have found I cannot access energetic forum from my office either (different internet provider in another location within the city).
From both my home and office I have accessed the forum without any problems for about 2 years now.  And I did not write any word yet in the Rosemary thread... lol

Really?  I just tried a GOOGLE search of "energeticforum" and then clicked on the link to bring up the site at once.  I do admit I'm using a freeware 'Web browser based on Mozilla, which you may not have anything like that to use.

It also occurs to me that some people in public venues(i.e., libraries) sometimes experience problems, while others nearby have no problems at all.  If there was a widespread virus, that shouldn't happen.  Everyone's computer should be affected.  It's also randomly intermittent.

--Lee

[wings]

Hi,

I have been unable to access the energeticforum.com since last Saturday afternoon.  First I turned to my internet provider but I still wait for their answer (it was the weekend they have not done anything). 

This morning I have found I cannot access energetic forum from my office either (different internet provider in another location within the city).
From both my home and office I have accessed the forum without any problems for about 2 years now.  And I did not write any word yet in the Rosemary thread... lol

Though I cannot rule out a technical problem en route from my location towards the energetic forum server location, I wrote a polite letter to Aaron, what he thinks on this.

rgds,  Gyula

apart popup use:

http://www.englishtunnel.com/index.php/010110A/687474702s7777772r656r65726765746963666s72756q2r636s6q2s7365617263682r7068703s73656172636869643q313638333536

http://tools.rosinstrument.com/cgi-proxy.htm

[henieck]

Someone else,has replicated at least some aspects of the circuit successfully now.

That and Luc's very interesting related findings make it more like "2 to 2" by my count.

- on which side did you count my findings (if any). I can tell that this circuit showed that uses 1J to give heat like 3J as well. A bit out of the full context -but no problem with me. Let us make it 3 to 1 - if this is going to increase the number of analysis of this circuit.

Wow- this is like almost everybody has replicated at least some aspects of the circuit successfully now.

[henieck]

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