Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie

[PaulLowrance]

Good Grief,

Can we all just set aside our personal feelings for a moment and focus on the real question? We have two 12Ah batteries in series for a total of 24V, that ran for a period of 7 hours and only dropped 0.23V http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4314-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie-97.html#post70105 and produced enough thermal energy in the MOSFET and Load resistor so as to call into question how 24Ah of battery capacity could perform such a feat. At the end of that run, the system was left running (Test #3b - unpublished) for another 14 hours, during which time the aperiodic harmonic mode was apparently lost and battery drain quickly escalated draining both batteries down to ~6V each while still producing heat above the expected values.

Then we have another 7 hour run, a duplicate on #3 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4314-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie-99.html#post70771, which again, according to the 2µs data dump, started with an average of 24.3646V at the end of the first hour, and ended with an average of 23.989V at the end of the 7th hour for a difference of 0.3756V. And here again, we have a record of heat being dissipated that cannot be explained by that energy drain.

Add to this, that the shunt, the only return path between the circuit and the battery that is the only way for the energy to complete its path, has a voltage measured across it during 3 separate data dumps each hour with 10,000 samples in each dump for a total of 21 different data dumps and 210,000 individual samples which when all averaged together yields a negative average.

Then add to that, in an effort to find a classical reason for this phenomenon, we observe an unexpected shift in the current sensing timing relative to the inductive pulse which calls into question whether or not the current in the load resistor has been shifted as indicated, or if the use of the shunt is questionable altogether.

Then add to that, the especially powerful fact that this type of result was experienced years ago and evaluated by credible persons at that time who offered no explanation for the events they had witnessed and who even went to the painstaking effort of careful battery draw down tests to ensure that the heat performed was not coming entirely from the batteries.

When we sum these events, surely anyone with intelligence will recognize that this begs for an accredited answer as to how this is even possible not to mention why.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could work together to find the answer?

I read maybe three posts in this thread in past few days, and saw yours. Measuring battery voltage drop is absolutely meaningless.

You people were told how to test the "Ainslie" claim. It should take you two days at most to do it the correct way. So far nobody has done it.

PL

[Rosemary Ainslie]

I read maybe three posts in this thread in past few days, and saw yours. Measuring battery voltage drop is absolutely meaningless.

You people were told how to test the "Ainslie" claim. It should take you two days at most to do it the correct way. So far nobody has done it.

PL

Edit. Sorry Paul.  I started saying something and lost the plot.  I think Harvey's answered you here.

[Harvey]

I read maybe three posts in this thread in past few days, and saw yours. Measuring battery voltage drop is absolutely meaningless.

You people were told how to test the "Ainslie" claim. It should take you two days at most to do it the correct way. So far nobody has done it.

PL

I'll keep that in mind the next time my car won't start. Seriously though, I have noticed that you have a lot of catching up to do here before your comments will have any true merit. This is probably the reason you have not been engaged in any real technical dialog here. Your initial attacks on Rosemary definitely put you off on a bad foot here - I for one would really like an explanation regarding your requests of her which I personally found offensive and intrusive with absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the study under way.

If you want to be taken seriously, then you need to establish your purpose here and be specific. I know you have had enough time on forums to understand that no reader likes to backtrack through pages of drivel trying to find the meaning behind some compound referential statement.

Nevertheless, I will address your concern here with an attempt at civility. Let's blackbox the circuit. We have 3 power sources, a blackbox, and a heating element - aka inductive resistor. Two of the power sources are put in series and go directly to, and only to the heating element. The third source goes directly to, and only to, the control circuit. The parameters are such, that the frequency, current and voltage in the heating circuit are all variable and for most intents and purposes random within certain bounds. The heating circuit and the control circuit share a common connection which in the future we may choose to isolate, but for now they are connected at the B(-). (See http://www.energeticforum.com/72259-post3037.html )

Now, using the above information, how specifically did you expect to determine the power in vs. the power out again? And if your qualifications are in order, what prohibits you from performing the 'two day' test yourself?

[WilbyInebriated]

I read maybe three posts in this thread in past few days, and saw yours. Measuring battery voltage drop is absolutely meaningless.

You people were told how to test the "Ainslie" claim. It should take you two days at most to do it the correct way. So far nobody has done it.

PL

meh, you're just pissy paul because this thread is getting the attention you 'think' your diode array should be. that's the only reason you're here with your negative comments, to pimp your diode array.

i agree with harvey, if it should only take 2 days, then have at it. if you do that, and that's a big if, i think you will find yourself mistaken... ask poynt, he thought something similar a hundred pages ago and did he 'get er done' in 2 days? nope. so if you're going to tell us all how it should be done, why don't you get on it and do it your own way, or go back to your mental masturbation with your diodes that don't make any useful power.

[forest]

Just a little thought :
if you have mechanical resonant circuit you can leave it oscillating but soon friction will stop it
you can force oscillation but that would be always a loose in input power
or you can "push" it in correct moment , not disturbing natural oscillations
also the start moment is important - imagine a pendulum started with a fast strong kick instead of slow smooth push