Method for converting HV (static) into usable low-voltage power.

[Steven Dufresne]

This was an approach I stumbled on when working on my testatika. 26kV, 20uA DC in, 190V, 113uA out. Okay, it was only 4% efficient but it was just something I stumbled on and since it wasn't what I was after I didn't improve upon it.

http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/potsmk1.htm

Basically it's lowering HVDC by leakage. Now that I think of it, I do this all the time when I don't insulate well enough. The point is, if you make an effort to capture all the ions then you can increase the efficiency.
-Steve

[triffid]

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[sm0ky2]

im toying around with tests on the works of Hermann Plauson.

basically 2 conducting plates, rotating between 2 charged plates.
when the rotating plates are 90-degrees to the charged plates, there is a fluxuation in current across a wire connecting the two plates. when they rotate 180-degrees : a polarity flip occurs sending the current in the other direction.

if this can be timed properly (rpm) then it may be sufficient to operate a transformer as plauson claimed.
in HP's patents he shows motors with multiple poles, which quite frankly confuses the heck outta me.... so the one im designing is basically like a small DC motor design. with two poles, using metal plates as stator/rotor instead of coils and magnets.

still on the drawing board with that though, as im still not convinced that this technology couldnt be used in a different way..
i.e. plauson's particular approach may not fully utilize the potential of his operating principal. 
for instance, rotating the charged plates instead of the induced ones.... or finding another way to oscillate the charges between two plates, to cause an alternating induction on a pair of secondary plates..  or ( particularly interesting to me) inducing a charge in multiple layers of plates in series, and discharging alternate plates.

i'll have to do more experimentation along these lines, perhaps a spark-gap discharged system could result in a more "solid-state" build.

[Steven Dufresne]

im toying around with tests on the works of Hermann Plauson.

basically 2 conducting plates, rotating between 2 charged plates.
when the rotating plates are 90-degrees to the charged plates, there is a fluxuation in current across a wire connecting the two plates. when they rotate 180-degrees : a polarity flip occurs sending the current in the other direction.

You've just described the Hyde generator:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/hyde_generator
except that Hyde was running it at 6000RPM and not just for transforming purposes, though that's probably what he started out doing.

if this can be timed properly (rpm) then it may be sufficient to operate a transformer as plauson claimed.
in HP's patents he shows motors with multiple poles, which quite frankly confuses the heck outta me.... so the one im designing is basically like a small DC motor design. with two poles, using metal plates as stator/rotor instead of coils and magnets.

still on the drawing board with that though, as im still not convinced that this technology couldnt be used in a different way..
i.e. plauson's particular approach may not fully utilize the potential of his operating principal. 
for instance, rotating the charged plates instead of the induced ones.... or finding another way to oscillate the charges between two plates, to cause an alternating induction on a pair of secondary plates..  or ( particularly interesting to me) inducing a charge in multiple layers of plates in series, and discharging alternate plates.

i'll have to do more experimentation along these lines, perhaps a spark-gap discharged system could result in a more "solid-state" build.

The wire segments of the testatika may in fact be the charged parts that are rotated between front and back antenna keys. I do that sometimes in my experiments, for example in this one:
  http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/276disksg2dcpsu3.htm

Are you refering to Plauson's US patent 1540998? If so, where in the patent does he talk about this?

I'm very interested in what you're doing.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

[sm0ky2]

great work there!  may i ask where you obtained the "mesh" you used to make your cylinders??  i've tried to re-created those things using perforated aluminum cans, but i found that cutting and reshaping their cylindrical shape proved to be more of a problem than i could deal with....

on plauson::      i started out reading about it in some of his litterature, but in his #1540998 patent i believe its mostly discussed near the top, with bits and details down through the center, before he gets into the more complex machinery.

i started thinking along the lines of using the rotating motion of my wimshurst to operate the spinning portion of a plauson-hybrid device. this way i dont need a secondary drive mechanism.
basically what i came up with is an inverted plauson-machine.

the induced plates and transformer are the stator, and the charged plates rotate straight off the drive-shaft of the wimshurst.
i drew a basic picture of what i have in mind.