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Mass can not slow time.

Started by brian334, June 25, 2009, 04:35:23 PM

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Alien509

Event Horizon  ;)

n.  The region, usually described as spherical, marking the outer boundary of a black hole, inside which the gravitational force is strong enough to prevent matter or radiation from escaping.

It's really just alot of complex math though  :D

onthecuttingedge2005

How did I know this would occur, if one doesn't have an event horizon then one could make one but without the ill effects of a black hole. a space ship at the speed of light or near it can induce a gravitational influence(even if Massless) to open a zero dimensional throat(Wormhole) to other event horizons simply by traveling an inverse Archimedes spiral at the speed of light or near it.

Jerry   

gravityblock

Light and the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum travels at C in all reference frames in the vacuum of space.  This is well established and accepted throughout the physics community.

If you're traveling at half C in a spacecraft and measure the speed of light coming from your spacecraft in your reference frame, you will calculate light to be traveling at C.  This is due to Time affecting your calculations at you're current mass/energy.

If a stationary outside observer measures the same light from your spacecraft in his frame of reference, he will calculate light to be traveling at C also.

Since Time is part of our calculations, both the local and outside observer will come to the same calculations.  The light should be calculated at half C when the space traveler is moving at half C, but since Time has slowed down for this space traveler, then he calculates it to be at C and not half of C.

Just because we use Time in our measurements, doesn't mean Time is a constant or is the same in another reference frame.

Time is not a constant.  Time is variable according to the mass/energy of the observer who is doing the calculating.

If you think Time doesn't affect mass/energy, then maybe look at how the galaxies are spiraled, which most if not all have a black hole and event horizon in their center.  This spiral is directly related to Time.  The space being torn open, allows the galaxies to be created and formed through this zero dimensional point which leads to all Event Horizons or Time.  The Archimedes Inverse Spiral for Time Traveling makes a lot of sense to me.

Very few people actually understand Einstein's Relativity Theory on space-time curvature.  We call it gravity with no explanation to how or why mass causes space-time to be curved.  Gravity is nothing more than mass/energy affecting the rate of Time, which cause a space-time curvature for other objects of mass/energy.  If something is massless, meaning it has no length, no width, and no height, then Time would not have an affect on it.  Time only affects mass/energy within it's Time dimension.

Time can be measured just like measuring distance or space.  We don't need to measure time before we use it in our calculations, since it is a near constant for us here on the earth.  They constantly have to update the Time on Satellites and GPS systems for them to stay in sync with the earth.  If they didn't do this, then your GPS system would lose accuracy of 3-6 meters per day.

Instead of using Time in part of your mathematical calculations in one particular frame of reference, maybe you need to start calculating Time itself with different masses/energies within each frames of references, then you will see how Time is used in calculations, but also how mass/energy affects Time itself that is used in the calculation.

This is really hard for most people to grasp and wrap their mind around.  Once you understand the concept, then you will realize how true and simple it really is.

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d3adp00l

If mass and time were related then we would have a grand unified field theory. If mass and time were related then the reactions in the massive sun would take longer to occur. This is trash,

Time is a dimension, it is the fundamental dimension by which all other dimensions are created. Without time you have no length width or height. Why? Because time is required to move from one spot in those dimensions to another, if it doesn't take time to move then you are in both places at once and then the dimension doesn't exist.

Time is equal to dimension 1, zero dimension is nothing.

time begins to vibrate in a line creating dimension 2 length.

That length begins to vibrate in a 90 degree plane of its length vibration creating dimension 3 a plane or lenthg and width.

that plane begins to vibrate in a 90 degree angle creating volume and the height, which also creates a elementary particle.

Since time doesnt exist in time and it doesn't exist in the lesser dimensions it can exist everywhere at once, to it its all the same thing. So everything can be made from the same time vibration, which is why all matter in the universe interacts, its in the same temporal phase, just as data streams on an ethernet cable do not interact with other hz.

our perception of time can be scewed because the devices we use to measure it are made of lesser dimensions, which as they move faster approach a higher energy state in exchange for giving up a dimension. As things move faster they do not stretch, they shrink, from 4d to 3d.

Light does not travel at C our observation of its effects of motion are limited to C, because at C it drops out of 4d and goes into 3d, leaving only evidence, since we can not interact with 3d from the 4d environment. This has to do with the particles acceration to C in the last chronon as it reaches C. the effects causes an effect similar to the sound barrier, the effect is in one place while the object is in another. But since it is a 3d object and we are looking at it from a 4d perspective then we can never actually observe the object. That would be like asking a blind person to observe the exact location of a subsonic jet. It doesnt exist within his observable world.

Start with the right premise and the rest makes sense. start with time as the last dimension and everything is jacked.
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BEP

Interesting thoughts, all.

My two cents:

Time and space(with everything in space) are two sides of the same coin. You bend one side - you bend the other.

The measurement of time between events is a human thing, time was there before us.

Maybe I short changed you, sorry.