Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[verpies]

So was it 14.8 Volts and 2.2 amps input ?

What was the input power to it when it was lighting up the 2 x 100 Watts bulbs

I keep asking the same questions, but never get a satisfactory answer from the inventors.

If the 14.8V and 2.2A are non-constant DC and measured with high frequency rms meters then the product of these two values only establishes the upper limit of the input energy flow (power).
This is better than nothing, but it certainly is not the power level itself.

If the 14.8V and 2.2A are non-constant DC and measured with averaging meters then the product of these two values would be lower than the rms values. For example, with a sinewave, the average I&V measurements would be 11% lower (see the attached sine metrics diagram).

For measurements not made with with high frequency meters, the results will be utterly meaningless.

Therefore it matters very much
1) how the input power is measured (with what instruments) ?
2) where it is measured in the circuit ?
3) how it is mathematically calculated ? 

I hope your authority on this forum will cause these questions to be answered.

Now, regarding the output power:
A 100W incandescent light bulb can be visibly lit with as little as 20W of electric power and a video camera with an automatic aperture can disproportionately exaggerate this brightness.
Thus, correlating the output power with the bulb's brightness should be done by some monotonic sensor such as a photodiode or a photovoltaic cell in a dark box (see attached photo). 
Eyeballing or videoing light bulbs is unscientific and unreliable.

I hope your authority on this forum will cause the output power to be credibly measured, too.

[a.king21]

Verpies. I must say - I agree. Also the lack of replication outside Lithuania is not encouraging either.
I just hope that these guys are up to something more positive in the background, so we can all get somewhere. Or it's the e-cat I'm afraid!

[Mannix]

I agree.

Having tuned a few yokes and asked a few questions

This whole "save the world" thread is littered with unlit bulbs.
The contrast ratio in the videos reveals that the bulbs are not fully bright .

Watt meters that will rectify spikes and deflect needles that are designed for matched 50 ohm sinewave ..??

This is hard enough without using ignorance

everybody should video some different bulbs at different voltages to understand this basic  point

People who have  video/photography experience can see this more clearly.

The circuits are interesting however  Kapanadze himself did seem to have it working and at least people are doing interesting experiments   

It is simple really .. if it wont self run ..it doesnt work

Have fun anyway

[John M]

I agree.

Having tuned a few yokes and asked a few questions

This whole "save the world" thread is littered with unlit bulbs.
The contrast ratio in the videos reveals that the bulbs are not fully bright .

Watt meters that will rectify spikes and deflect needles that are designed for matched 50 ohm sinewave ..??

This is hard enough without using ignorance

everybody should video some different bulbs at different voltages to understand this basic  point

People who have  video/photography experience can see this more clearly.

The circuits are interesting however  Kapanadze himself did seem to have it working and at least people are doing interesting experiments   

It is simple really .. if it wont self run ..it doesn't work

Have fun anyway

I agree and the one thing that some people do is put a cover over the light bulb. You can get a better idea of its brightness this way since it doesn't blind the camera as much. It may not be deffinitive proof of over unity but is more impressive when it also starts to burn the paper.
If anyone uses LEDs as a load, please don't, since 500 LEDs lit to full brightness is not impressive. I am still struggling to get anywhere close as some people have. Just not enough time to put in the work necessary.

John

[DreamThinkBuild]

Hi Mannix, John,

I agree with that. Lights are like fools gold when testing outputs, while they look pretty they have no true measurement value. I've been fooled myself by using lights, now I only measure outputs with power resistors after rectifying to DC first.