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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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T-1000

I still do not get why you guys try do decipher black box of TK when there are enough of material to make own Tesla coil what gives electrostatic charge and where load does not affect input. Starting from page 500 of this thread we gone long chit-chat way and only few people from thousands did really made at least attempts to replicate. So, are you all too lazy or there is another blocking reason from building own circuit...?  ::)

The building rules are very simple to begin with:
1) Make flyback driver what puts flyback transformer into resonance then wind or connect existing free turns to capacitor for free resonant oscillations. 
2) Connect "cold" end of high voltage coil into that resonant LC circuit then tune flyback driver for minimum required power with maximum resonant output (sine wave no matter what input signal is).
3) Make Tesla coil(TC) what runs on AV plug to primary from one wire of flyback transformer while other flyback from flyback LC circuit end goes into secondary and then put it into resonant oscillations, then harvest ionized air from hot end(ionizer)  of TC to capacitor what got spark gap to the load which got grounded another end.
4) Never let spark jump in your ionizer, it kills your resonant circuit!
5) Ensure you are getting trumpet wave inside of TC

When you reach this point, you should have good conditions for OU sweets... :)

Shokac

Quote from: stivep on February 08, 2012, 03:11:02 PM

Thank you shokac my friend


BUT
can you analyze  schematic if
we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors.
220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say power the HV flyback hidden inside and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator


Wesley

             we say that Transformer was Low voltage )12V) to 4 diodes to power  transistors.
             220V was delivered  to  Can-cylinder to say TRIGERING (with current transformers) (like this:
             http://www.grupopremo.com/fr/new/93/)  the HV flyback hidden inside
             and /or  voltage multiplier MARX generator AND 220V FEED LOAD through ORANGE (L) AND WHITE (N) wire
Answer is YES!!! With modify questions!



             can you analyze  schematic:
First: look this video http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeEnergyLT#p/u/14/lFiaBKW50yA  on 5:55 min. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voltage is present without laod !!!!!!
Conclusion:
- Resonace i clasical means is not present!!!!!!!!! VERY IMPORTANT
- Voltage 220V is present without LOAD, Grid or inverter voltage is use for primari voltage and curent.


Why use HV
Answer: for pump current in clasical 220V circuit, but hi must be in faze with grid or inverter circuit (Kapandze this is called rezonace between primary and secundary winding)

HV make HI current (free electron from air)
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCoPJpCQOs&context=C3cfcf10ADOEgsToPDskIhntBfjFsQfsFe_Prgh7kr


This is simple solution.

Regards!

John M

Quote from: T-1000 on February 08, 2012, 04:13:15 PM
I still do not get why you guys try do decipher black box of TK when there are enough of material to make own Tesla coil what gives electrostatic charge and where load does not affect input. Starting from page 500 of this thread we gone long chit-chat way and only few people from thousands did really made at least attempts to replicate. So, are you all too lazy or there is another blocking reason from building own circuit...?  ::)

The building rules are very simple to begin with:
1) Make flyback driver what puts flyback transformer into resonance then wind or connect existing free turns to capacitor for free resonant oscillations. 
2) Connect "cold" end of high voltage coil into that resonant LC circuit then tune flyback driver for minimum required power with maximum resonant output (sine wave no matter what input signal is).
3) Make Tesla coil(TC) what runs on AV plug to primary from one wire of flyback transformer while other flyback from flyback LC circuit end goes into secondary and then put it into resonant oscillations, then harvest ionized air from hot end(ionizer)  of TC to capacitor what got spark gap to the load which got grounded another end.
4) Never let spark jump in your ionizer, it kills your resonant circuit!
5) Ensure you are getting trumpet wave inside of TC

When you reach this point, you should have good conditions for OU sweets... :)

T-1000 - This is what I am looking for. Basic steps without too much theory or what ever in between. I don't want to sound too stupid, but when I read you description I am not sure if I got it all right. Could you please post diagrams to further explain it?

aether22

I think I get why there is chit-chat...


No one has yet managed to independently replicate power out of the caduceus (and claims about the new ion thingy have not been made yet) but several skilled people have tried.


Failed replications are like a poison in this field, it only takes a few and parts stop being ordered and people hop back up on the fence.
'They' likely know this and use it from time to time to reduce our inclination to build.


If I knew what to do to get probable FE especially looping as easily as you make it sound T-1000 I'd be building and ordering right away.


So anyway back to chit-chat, I have claimed that unlimited energy can be received by an antenna that has a high Q receiving an EM wave.


The thing that proves it to me is that if we look at the generator or transformer analogies of this we see that there must be extra energy due to the fact that there is also definitely extra loading on the input, either energy is being destroyed or we have more energy induced into the rotor/secondary.


No one can argue that putting more current through a DC generator (in the direction that it is a generator not a motor) will not cause more mechanical loading.


And to be honest, this extra loading might impact on the transmitter if we have it close enough.
At the same time it is obviously impossible to load a transmitter that is now off.
Also some antennas have a very low radiation resistance, and we can use a directional transmitter but a receiver that is less directional.


I have spent time thinking about resonant circuits and antennas and the conclusion I have come to is that an air core coil can't act as an antenna normally (mostly).


You need the ferrite that is magnetized by the incoming wave which increases it's magnetic field, otherwise the flux inside and outside the coil is pointing in the same direction, this means no induction. But the field generated by the core returns outside the wires.


The limit with this is that the magnetic field from the coil will saturate the ferrite and since the self induction is high the field generated by the coil will be closer to 180 degrees than is ideal.
More turns means more voltage from the ferrite loop antenna, but it compromises the current that can flow.


The other thoughts I had was that maybe this is how a number of free energy devices work, at least in part.


For instance a swiftly collapsing magnetic field have a very very high maximum frequency.
The higher the frequency the smaller the near-field and the sooner we are talking about photons and wave waves, free radiation.


So one thought is that a collapsing current provides extra energy, perhaps that is because it creates EM radiation in the surroundings and if the environment is suited this is reflected by metal and induces energy back into the coil, and if there is current flowing in the right direction in the coil this would add a lot of energy.
But what would cause this current? Capacitance, bifilar winding anyone?


Consider the Newman motor, for some reason that makes no sense at all (until now) when the coil is open circuited a pulse of current flows in the reverse direction? ???
This seems in direct opposition to the expected action of the current trying to maintain it's self.


The voltage required for a spike of current to form in a high impedance coil like that is enormous, it can only be induced directly in the coil, outside of the coil would lead to a breakdown of the insulation and arc over.
But what if the collapsing field induced current in the surroundings that reflected back to the source?  This would indeed be in this negative direction.


But the success would be better in a metal shed or some place that will reflect the energy back, actually I think that is where Newman ran his most effective motor/generator.


The other thought is that when you have devices like Hendershot with coils and capacitors together you have in effect a synthesized wave.
This could be acting like a crossed field antenna, actually maybe that is what all this HV with magnetic fields is doing?


By mixing electric and magnetic fields in the right way you can apparently create something called a crossed field antenna, there is even a hint at it being overunity as a transmitter.












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hartiberlin

Quote from: captainkt on February 08, 2012, 06:47:23 AM
Hi, Hartiberlin everyone,
Interesting that TK self runs his unit by feeding the output 220v to 12v rectified (transformer in leather box) then feeds this to 12v 220v inverter and back in. Then removes battery. I think if this was not important then he would simply do as most people and feed the output direct to input.
Regards
Keith

Yes, that is a very valid question !

One answer could be, that in this black box is also some kind of power control device, that not too much power
is fed to the inverter 12 Volts input..

Another explanation would be, that this box could contain an accumulator or a stack of high capacity Li-Ion batteries
and then it is faked this way , that this black box is just the real power supply ?

Buit I don´t think so as the 220 Volts cable from the inverter to the coil is just to small to power
the 5 KWatts load... so the power must be created inside his special coil.

He also build all the other devices and also the 100 KW Unit worked in this 3 Phase setup, so to generate 48 KWatts of power as
there was shown in this later unit, would not work with such small hidden batteries...over such a lomg time...

So I guess in the black box might also be a current limiter for the 12 Volts DC output.
When he connected the blacj box to the accumulator, he measured about 6.5 Amps going into the battery
from this black box, so at 12 Volts this is a power level of about:
78 Watts.

ALso very interesting was the fact, that when he removed  from the lightblue colored inverter box the 220 Volts plug,
the lights did not went out immediately, but only about a half seond later...

So this unit must be running at a pretty high output to input power amplification ratio
and/or have some caps somewhere for the energy storage.

Also when the measured the output from the 220 Volts inverter at around 0.3 amps and the output amps at the 220 Volts
side at the bulbs at around 26 amps you see that this is a power amplification factor of around
86 ! So a whopping COP of 86 !

The next question is, how he generates 220 Volts at 50 Hz from the coil there ?

This circuit must be inside the round box, as only it drives the coil with the 2 transistors seen on the 2 black heat sinks there...

Maybe it is not a real 50 Hz 220 Volts sine output wave, but a 220 Volts wave with some high frequency carrier and 50 Hz modulated.

I have read that Tarial Kapanadze did not use a scope in his workshop ? Is this info correct ?
I wonder how he then managed to get the coil output to match the 220 Volts 50 Hz waveform ?

Without a scope such a task is almost impossible I guess... ?

So is TK able to use a scope  ?


As this coil is so easy to see in this video from the 28th of April 2004, too bad, that we don´t have any scopeshot of the output waveform,
that would really help to pin the main function principle down ?

Did TK ever show any scopeshots yet somewhere ?
Or does anybody have a picture or video of a scopeshot from the real Tarial devices ?


Regards, Stefan.


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