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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: forest on March 28, 2010, 08:36:07 AM

This is impossible ! There is always the source of energy, and you know why ? because that need initial kick in all cases. Like child on the swing can only play with initial imbalance from equilibrium. What is the source of energy added to each period of swing oscilations by proper operation of legs ? I think it's gravity energy.

Not always. Energy can be obtained due to construction allowing spontaneous displacement under the action of a conservative force. This is production of energy without a pre-existing energy source.

Gravity is force, not energy. Appropriate construction (not child on a swing) can ensure spontaneous displacement under the action of the gravity force thus generating energy from no pre-existing energy source, "energy out of nothing", as it were.

The above has been proven in mechanical devices. If indeed Tesla's transformer (TT) is an OU device, the mechanism of production of excess energy would be along such mechanism. Any tapping through resonance into known energy sources disqualifies TT as OU. Similarly, wind generators, solar panels etc. are not OU devices let alone known ways schematics to steal electrical energy from power lines (placed near the power lines) as well as other more elaborate devices for that purpose.

grizli

Quote from: Omnibus on March 28, 2010, 07:54:36 AM
You will only be right if you demonstrate higher energy output than input and prove experimentally that you're not stealing the excess energy from a known energy source. Until then all you're saying is only speculation.

No YOU WILL only be right  ;D if YOU MAKE device that can steal 5kW from pover lines from 5km away !!!  ;D

grizli

Quote from: Omnibus on March 28, 2010, 08:54:15 AM
Similarly, wind generators, solar panels etc. are not OU devices let alone known ways schematics to steal electrical energy from power lines (placed near the power lines) as well as other more elaborate devices for that purpose.

HE He how can you steal energy from SUN its FREE :D

OU  is just using another more intense source of energy

Omnibus

Quote from: grizli on March 28, 2010, 09:46:23 AM
No YOU WILL only be right  ;D if YOU MAKE device that can steal 5kW from pover lines from 5km away !!!  ;D

We agreed on the 5km thing. On the other hand, how do you know what Kapanadze's device was near to when showing it in the video? It would be scientifically sound not only to demonstrate energy gain but do it under controlled conditions. A number of people have built these devices and only a few, if not only Kapanadze, have shown anything appearing as energy gain. Where's the controlled experiment to verify its reality?

Here's another Bulgarian claiming somewhat similar OU device showing a number of lamps shining in the out circuit compared to the in circuit: http://www.inkomp-delta.com/page3.html. It probably deserves a separate thread. At least in that video the claimant is trying to present some measurements, as inconclusive as they may be. He incorrectly assumes that the power of such complex signal as we see from the screen of his oscilloscope can be calculated by just multiplying the voltage and the current measured with multi-meters. Correct way of measuring power for such complex signal is the way Steorn do it -- multiplying the momentary I and V every 2 microseconds, integrating that over time and then finding the slope of that integrated trace.



Redacted To Add: Ooops ... sorry ... There has already been a string on Valeri Ivanov's device opened: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4300.150

Omnibus

Quote from: grizli on March 28, 2010, 09:48:17 AM
HE He how can you steal energy from SUN its FREE :D

OU  is just using another more intense source of energy

Like I said, wind generators, solar panels etc. are free energy devices but are not overunity systems.