Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Hoppy]

  They  disconnected the neutral wire from their appliance. Then they put an earth rod in the ground and connected their devices to the earth rod. So the live was from the electricity main, and the earth rod wire became the neutral.
That way the meter did not register any power. They had "free" electricity.
I think Kapandaze took this a stage further and used an inverter to produce his electricity.

Are you suggesting that TK powered an inverter from a battery (both hidden in the aquarium) and connected the electric fire between the inverter 'live' and braided ground lead via the current amplifier and filter? If so, if the 220V initiating supply is derived from this inverter, it is presumably disconnected once the device starts-up and the feedback loop established because the schematic shows no permanent power supply, so it looks like the device is literally running on fresh air! We know that from weight alone, there cannot be any high capacity batteries to power the fire directly from an inverter. Nothing really adds up here. My focus is returning to the braided earth wire, or maybe cable?

Unless TK and others are taking the grid supply 'live' before the meter - bypassing it, then I can't see how the energy is 'free'.

[a.king21]

Are you suggesting that TK powered an inverter from a battery (both hidden in the aquarium) and connected the electric fire between the inverter 'live' and braided ground lead via the current amplifier and filter? If so, if the 220V initiating supply is derived from this inverter, it is presumably disconnected once the device starts-up and the feedback loop established because the schematic shows no permanent power supply, so it looks like the device is literally running on fresh air! We know that from weight alone, there cannot be any high capacity batteries to power the fire directly from an inverter. Nothing really adds up here. My focus is returning to the braided earth wire, or maybe cable?

Unless TK and others are taking the grid supply 'live' before the meter - bypassing it, then I can't see how the energy is 'free'.

I am suggesting that we get junk parts, an inverter or two, some HV transformers and do the experiments. We might be pleasantly surprised. I am simply pointing us in TK's direction - free from the camouflage TK has tried.
I am already getting encouraging results, but I do not post results until I have checked thouroughly. I could get into a discussion and prove Newton's laws wrong, but that would only be intellectual. I don't care about winning an intellectual debate. I am pretty convinced about TK's principle of his device now. So it has opened up a whole new field of practical research.
The electricity could be coming through a ground loop. Too early to tell. However the UK national grid always has one power station on stand by and dumps it's entire output into the earth at times. New Zealand uses a single wire earth return principle. There's also billions of watts dumped into the ground every day. We are also in a giant capacitor.
The method I have outlined is a way to access this energy supply. It is  even be present in the air, because I have already obtained wasted electricity from the household mains by aerial means. Zero point or vacuum?  maybe. Scalar electricity? maybe. I promise if you do the experiments you'll start to make progress.
Measure your start up values on your inverter battery(ies), and compare with end results.
I may start a new thread yet.

[captainkt]

@Hoppy, in both 2004 and green box the inverter is kept in circuit, the loop back is through a step down transformer with fullwave rectifier (in small leather box). The battery is then taken out of equation. I posted about this earlier and Stephan thought it interesting that loop was not direct feed. The transformer looks std ie 50 HZ drops voltage down to 12v or 24v to run inverter. Keep experimenting.
Regards
Keith

[Hoppy]

I am suggesting that we get junk parts, an inverter or two, some HV transformers and do the experiments. We might be pleasantly surprised. I am simply pointing us in TK's direction - free from the camouflage TK has tried.
I am already getting encouraging results, but I do not post results until I have checked thouroughly. I could get into a discussion and prove Newton's laws wrong, but that would only be intellectual. I don't care about winning an intellectual debate. I am pretty convinced about TK's principle of his device now. So it has opened up a whole new field of practical research.
The electricity could be coming through a ground loop. Too early to tell. However the UK national grid always has one power station on stand by and dumps it's entire output into the earth at times. New Zealand uses a single wire earth return principle. There's also billions of watts dumped into the ground every day. We are also in a giant capacitor.
The method I have outlined is a way to access this energy supply. It is  even be present in the air, because I have already obtained wasted electricity from the household mains by aerial means. Zero point or vacuum?  maybe. Scalar electricity? maybe. I promise if you do the experiments you'll start to make progress.
Measure your start up values on your inverter battery(ies), and compare with end results.
I may start a new thread yet.

Thanks for your reply.

I have carried out many experiments using looped back and home built transformer based inverters and have seen some strange battery vagaries but in all cases, despite batteries appearing to charge whilst on heavy load, whilst internal resistance changes are taking place, the batteries have never maintained capacity over the long term. Having said this, I have not tried a good earth rod / farm connection, so this may prove fruitful, especially if the DUT is choked to earth from various points in the circuit. I do agree with you that experimentation along very simple lines is the best way forward as success will be clearly apparent if FE manifests, now that we are dealing with a heavy electrical loading. Home brewed inverters are easy to build and fairly inexpensive, allowing different operating frequencies to be tried out. A new thread to cover this experimental work sounds like a good idea to me, so that we can end this one before the 1000th page flags up! As others have commentated, TK's secret may well be found in a pile of interconnected junk parts!! Having said all this, that 'earth' braiding should not be dismissed and could easily conceal a separate conductor(s), making it possible to connect with an external source of energy.

[Hoppy]

@Hoppy, in both 2004 and green box the inverter is kept in circuit, the loop back is through a step down transformer with fullwave rectifier (in small leather box). The battery is then taken out of equation. I posted about this earlier and Stephan thought it interesting that loop was not direct feed. The transformer looks std ie 50 HZ drops voltage down to 12v or 24v to run inverter. Keep experimenting.
Regards
Keith

Good point - thanks and easy to experiment with this idea.