Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[br549]

I am kind-of new to free energy investigation, and have been following with interest, and trying some basic testing of my own. I have noticed on some of the videos that the watt meters commonly used to measure home appliance output wattages were being used. I bought a couple of these to use on some transformer experiments that I was doing. (seemed like a slick and easy way to  measure input and output wattage at a glance). At first I thought that I had more output than input wattage. After further investigation I found discrepancies between  the appliance watt meter and a in-line watt meter.   NOTE:: below attachment.     I'm sure others with more experience have noticed this, but it kind-of surprised me ---- . This doesn't have anything to do with TK investigation directly, but I thought it might save some beginners (Like Me!!)   some time in the long run.   br549

[jbignes5]

I must not do any such thing. If I did, I would become like you. An abhorrent notion.
Yes, every DC meter is an averaging meter, and most AC meter perform some type of averaging too.  The arithmetical mean, geometric mean or the RMS calculation or plain inertia are all averaging / integrating techniques performed by those AC meters.

The average of a sine wave will amount to zero over integer number of its cycles, irregardless how much you try to forget the math that you've been taught in school.
A rectified sine wave is not a sine wave anymore, it is abs(sin(t)) - so don't change the subject. That does not work on me.

talking about math. Lets look at it this way if the average ac current was net zero then there would be no such current at all. So in your logic for an given point in time the current is always zero. This is the junk that you spout. There is current in AC and it can be half rectified for half the value even with some of these Current meters if they use a diode as a shunt. By the way a magnet is a shunt as well.


Like I said I took the engineers way out and said it wasn't proper to use the DC meter for AC measurements.


I will ask this once. If you have nothing to contribute then go somewhere else where you can stroke others ego's. I explained that it might not be possible with all ammeters to measure both currents and even said I would be using the appropriate meter for testing my setup. Again if you have nothing other then attacking me personally then please stop posting here.


I have better things to do with my time then argue with paper engineers.


So what are you here for anyways? Obviously it's not to help with figuring this process out.

[verpies]

I have noticed on some of the videos that the watt meters commonly used to measure home appliance output wattages were being used.

Yes, using them is a much better method that stupidly multiplying average volts by average amps

After further investigation I found discrepancies between  the appliance watt meter and a in-line watt meter.   NOTE:: below attachment.     I'm sure others with more experience have noticed this, but it kind-of surprised me ---- .

This is not surprising. Some of these meters are trying to save on production costs by not using full 4-quadrant multipliers or are using multipliers that can work only at low frequencies.

For $20 you can build your own wattmeter that can be accurate and functional up to tens of MHz .
If you want to give it a try, let me know and I will show you how.

[frankidel]

Hi i have some questions about the 2004 device or the 2012 aquarium, mostly about the transformer and coax, are you sure that the coax cable coil has nothing to do with the device
Is the coaxial impedance is fixed ( 50 ohms ) what about capacitance and inductance ( fixed also ) so this could be in autoresonance or not ?  what about doing the coaxial in a bifilar coil.

[Ganzha]

There are nothing usefull just conversation about  special Cuprum wires nothing more! It is not worht to translate! The conversation between TK and one man from Italy, The man ask what kind of matter he shoul buy (eg wires, thansosots) before Tk will arrive..... Finally TK said that usual cuprum multystand wires quite OK and 10 meters is enough....
russian file is here
http://yadi.sk/d/hF5EurFM048Mu