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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 22, 2012, 08:45:13 AM
But it sounds rather like »case closed, forget it«.

I can see nothing than a single braid on any of the AQII images. It seems to me to be impossible to hide an additional »hot« wire within this braid without anyone noticing it on site. But the question »fake or not fake« stands or falls with the presence of a hidden wire.



That's because we cannot see inside the braid! A conductor suitable for carrying HV would have been thin enough as not to notice in terms of braid thickness. Also a flat ribbon cable could have been used to gain additional conductors.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: Hoppy on December 22, 2012, 08:55:53 AM
That's because we cannot see inside the braid!
This presumes that the braid has an inside at all. But when one has this braid in his fingers (one of the investigation team perhaps) and sees it is absolutely flat with no inside, then what's the point in looking again and again at this braid?

And still no one any idea where the wire of the 100KW device could be hidden? ::)

wattsup

@Zeitmaschine

You are right. Like filling a barrel with water, the barrel should not have any holes. Filling the barrel with truth requires that any loose hole be plugged as well. So let's plug some more holes, but just know I will not sand the barrel down completely and I will not do a whole new paint job as well. It's just a waste of time.

But let's plug a few holes.

Aq2 Shield wire.

Have you ever taken a good length of shielding wire like in the Aq2?

First of all such shielding wire comes in levels of shielding as a percentage. You have from 60% to 95% coverage and from the videos I'd say TKs braid is a nice 95% shielding that is available by opening up a good quality coax that you first cut off the outer insulator then just slide off the shield wire.

But once you have the shield wire length in your hand you quickly realize certain attributes of this shield wire once it is free to move about without being enclosed in a set structure like a coax cable. I still have 1000 feet of triax cable to vouch for that. hehehe

So anyways to make a long story short, let's see what the Aq2 video does show about the shield wire.

The first thing I noticed is at the cement bolt, you can see how the shield wire is in two loops. That is practically impossible to do with the shield wire because at 95% the wire works almost like a spring.

See the image of the two shield wires and how the one with the hidden wire inside holds its shape.

But the smoking gun I referred to in my previous posts but yes, I did not elaborate. Here is close up you can actually see the hidden wire leaving the grey to copper shield connection point and going to the HV wire. It cannot be any more clear then that.

Energy can be transported in so many ways it is not funny. Guys figure we will just sit around and accept the fact that there is no way the energy required to heat up the element can pass through a shield wire or even a thin hidden wire inside the shield wire. But if your transported energy is designed especially to move along a thin wire, then the world is yours to play with any way you want.

I have to say @Zeitmaschine that your questions are always welcome because I know they are well thought out and based on a sincere concern to clear any ambiguities for the benefit of all, which I realize there will always do exist some questions due to the simple fact that no hard evidence will ever be available, but at some point you have to come to your own conclusion based on what you know and what you see or observe.

I cannot do that much more from these videos.

You can ask about the 100kw device and I could give you 1000 ways they did it, but regardless, at this point from what we now of the past devices, this can only reflect on the 100kw device as well.

Just consider this, at 54 years old I calculate I have another 10 great years (hope more then that of course) of experimenting in me to get OU. I have to decide on the best orientation to spend that time that is not coming back for anyone. So what I want to know is not really how it worked, but first to know is it real or is it fake. Because if I think it is real and 5 years from now it winds up really being fake because of a voluntary TK deathbed exaltation for mercy, that would be a tragic waste to the extreme.

I, like all have done all the levels of believing in TK, not only talking but experimenting but always while still looking and looking and looking closer and closer and when the images did not jump out, then I'd look again at each of the guys mannerisms and it is only then after so long, while I myself am still doing and spending good bucks on experimenting the TK thing that actually cost me the loss of some damn nice pieces of equipment and components, finally, I find the answer to..... is it real or is it fake. The answer is..........it's fake. TK is what we can eventually call a Notorious OU Copperfield (NOUC) (Such an appropriate name - copper field). Notorious because of all the waste he has caused. Copperfield because you know there is a trick but, are you smart enough to find what the trick is. But ultimately, you at least know in advance that the effect is an illusion and definitely not real.

I sincerely hope that TK gets booked in the best TV shows and makes a load of money, millions and millions of dollars doing his NOUC Shows, because then I would have a good reason to sue him for some damages. hehehe
But right now, you are looking at a loss guys. Walk away proud. But what a piss off still. But let's consider that despite the fact that TK is tricking us, we still wind up learning with the experiments and with all that learning, it is up to us to do better.

It all boils down to this. The copper field is open and concepts are now free again to explore the universe of OU.

@Farmhand

Thanks for that. I really appreciate that because right now I really feel like a piece of shit.

wattsup


Zeitmaschine

Quote from: wattsup on December 22, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
You can ask about the 100kw device and I could give you 1000 ways they did it, but regardless, at this point from what we now of the past devices, this can only reflect on the 100kw device as well.
Essentially this sentence means that it is fake because it has to be fake. This is not quite much of a proof.

Quote from: wattsup on December 22, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
@Zeitmaschine

You are right. Like filling a barrel with water, the barrel should not have any holes. Filling the barrel with truth requires that any loose hole be plugged as well. So let's plug some more holes, but just know I will not sand the barrel down completely and I will not do a whole new paint job as well. It's just a waste of time.
So the questions are: Is the Kapanadze OU a fake? Is the Stepanov OU a fake? Is the Steven Mark OU a fake? Is the Tesla OU a fake? Are all further OU patents fake?

If the answer to all these questions is Yes, then we should immediately throw away all our OU equipment, because then there is no OU, there was no OU and there will never be any OU. :(

But if the answer to only one of these questions is No, then it would be interesting to find out how this particular OU works, wouldn't it?

Quote from: forest on December 22, 2012, 07:16:57 AM
an so the next page of this thread used for useless discussion.... :(
So it seems. ::)

wattsup

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on December 22, 2012, 11:50:49 AM
Essentially this sentence means that it is fake because it has to be fake. This is quite not much of a proof.

No, it does not have to be, it simply is. Proving it to you will require so much effort because they have left so many open windws of opportunity to fake that video.

Examples.........

1) Did anyone there lift up the motor off the ground.
2) Did anyone lift up the heating element assemblies off the ground.
3) Did anyone lift anything off the ground.
4) Why are all the energy consuming assemblies positioned the way they are so far apart as if strategically placed to match any underground power wire availabilities.

Like I said I can go on and on till #1000. But the point is it does not make a difference. I know for a fact now that given the time and the effort and the observational ability, I can find all the ways TK will fake a device because his solutions are as rudimentary as any level 1 electrician. There is no rocket science in the TK devices because they do not have that ability to really work towards producing a real OU device. They do have the uncanny ability to produce a real nice show as entertainment but the tragedy here is they are purporting it is real.


So the questions are: Is the Kapanadze OU a fake? Is the Stepanov OU a fake? Is the Steven Mark OU a fake? Is the Tesla OU a fake? Are all further OU patents fake?

Why are you mixing things up. If you saw a very ugly woman, will you say they are all ugly (hope not). Why put them all in the same boat. Especially why are you putting Tesla in this group. He has nothing to do with TK or SM or anyone else and putting his name next to these guy is an insult to Tesla. I can tell you TK is fake. I can tell you SM is fake (Mr. Batteryman) as well. I don't know about Stepanov. And, I can surely tell you Tesla is real and should not even be in this line-up.

If the answer to all these questions is Yes, then we should immediately throw away all our OU equipment, because then there is no OU, there was no OU and there will never be any OU. :(

Yes for TK and SM and No you should not throw away all your OU equipment (unless you want to give it to me - hehehe). Keep the perspective. We are only really talking about TK and TK being real or not real should have absolutely no effect on OU being real or not. We are not debating here the existence or not of OU, but specifically the ability of TK to build OU devices.

But if the answer to only one of these questions is No, then it would be interesting to find out how this particular OU works, wouldn't it?
So it seems. ::)

Yes of course but you are again putting everything in the same basket. We are finding out how OU works everyday, by finding out how it does not work. Every experiment that goes bad, is a good experiment that takes you closer to the goal. But when you are then following a road that only leads to an endless cliff, you either learn to fly on your own brainpower or you head back and take a new road. The only road that is clear of secrets and traps and waste of time are the ones that taken by true OUers and not by Secret Holders. This is the biggest fact that we have to learn on this forum and all other forums.

wattsup