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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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zcsaba77

Quote from: verpies on February 08, 2013, 06:46:53 AM
The rotating one - no, AFAIK.  The 50cm disks alone would cost $800 at today's steel and brass prices.
The solid state ones - yes and some replicators have claimed success but did not make make credible O/I power measurements.

Hi
AFAIK? Can u explian what is AFAIK? is fake?
Where is price 800USD this combined disk one or two pcs? which state?

verpies

Quote from: zcsaba77 on February 08, 2013, 07:44:59 AM
AFAIK? Can u explian what is AFAIK? is fake?
Where is price 800USD this combined disk one or two pcs? which state?
AFAIK = As Far As I Know.

New brass costs ~$10/kg today in New Jersey and Chicago's metal shops and $12 in Frankfurt, Germany's shops. 
Online stores can be even more expensive, e.g. see here for an example of $24/kg for a 24x24x0.75inch brass plate.

Scrap prices are of course less than new stock brass prices, but the chances of finding a whole 50x50x2cm brass plate or a 50x2cm disk in a scrap/junk yard, are very low.
Brass shavings or small pieces are not a problem to find at a scrap yard for $8/kg, but not many people have the facility to purify and melt them at 1650ºF in order to cast a 50x2cm disk.

To obtain two brass disks like Mr. Kapanadze has used, an average Joe would need to buy two square brass plates 50x50x2cm from new stock and cut out two 50x2cm disks out of them.
Each such plate has the volume of 5000cm3. Now, the density of brass is 8.5g/cm3, thus 5000cm3 of brass has mass of 42.5kg.
42.5kg of brass costs $425 in Chicago. Two such plates will cost $850 + cutting/lathing costs - leftover scrap value.

...and I'm not even adding the cost of the steel disks.

jbignes5

Quote from: verpies on February 08, 2013, 06:46:53 AM
Unfortunately, that is possible, too.
Also, the disks can be rotated conventionally by the following methods:
- High current, ball-bearing motor (a.k.a.: Marinov motor). See video here.
- Mechanical propulsion along the perimeter of the disks by a small friction roller hidden in the white foam at the bottom of the aquarium.
The rotating one - no, AFAIK.  The 50cm disks alone would cost $800 at today's steel and brass prices.
The solid state ones - yes and some replicators have claimed success but did not make make credible O/I power measurements.

It's possible and not done that way. Why can't we take it for granted that these are exactly as presented. I know how it is possible but was it done that way? No one can say yes to that. Why, because no one has reproduced it. So we can sit around discussing all the way to fake it and never actually prove that it was done that way. It's all Blah Blah Blah and never tried.

I on the other hand will be a scientist and try to replicate it to the best of my ability. I think I have the guessing part down. Now lets actually do something besides looking at poorly made videos and actually do something.

Verpies you are a great book guy but you lack any ability to actually do the experiments. And to tell you the truth I don't know how these guys could even listen to you based on how deceptive you are or shall we call you wasabi? Oh thats right he has add blocked me. Who cares what you got to say. It's all lies and deceptive, misleading and down right close minded misdirection.

Did everyone like the misleading other idea that brought itsu and wattsup down the path of this doesn't work. It doesn't work Verpies way because it could never work that way and verpies knows this. This is a different kind of process then the traditional electronics or electromotive circuits.

As for the disks comment now he throws out some insane price for metal to discourage trying the process.

As I said before All of the TK machines are merely transformers of this source energy flow. The transformers are highly efficiently tuned to this rather old energy flow on the input. The output is only accomplished on the conversion of this energy flow. Knowing more about this kind of high voltage field could explain most processes that we have not figured out yet in our time. I think others have found out this process. I won't go through the list but it is long and extensive and includes almost all prominent names. The fluidic theory is a very old concept and if they could think that way before then a much older understanding could have been already experienced in the past many many times and even utilized.

Magic is only magic because we don't understand the process. Once the process is open for reveiw it stops looking like magic and becomes rational and useful.

Most of verpies replies are gonna be about the magnetic field and not the electric field TK is using. You won't find anything in the magnetic field because it is too balanced. The electric field is very different and does not have this balancing mechanism that magnetic fields characterize.

Just watch this video and listen. Really listen to these people. Let them make their argument then decide.

I was having some issues watching this video. If you have issues then please tell me. I think the video is very clear about these processes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5BQZaYw90A

Hoppy

Quote from: zcsaba77 on February 08, 2013, 07:44:59 AM
Hi
AFAIK? Can u explian what is AFAIK? is fake?
Where is price 800USD this combined disk one or two pcs? which state?

AFAIK its AFAIK