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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Hoppy

Quote from: verpies on April 19, 2013, 02:15:15 PM
Yeeeees,  I thought about the Ball Bearing Motor already.  I just call it the Marinov Motor because Stefan Marinov invented it.
See the last paragraph of this message.

I went even so far as to replicate the Marinov Bearing Motor with automotive brake disks, that I had in the junk pile and noted that:
- It does not make that constant frequency saw-noise with AC nor DC (even after prolonged use)
- It is not self-starting
- It is not strong
- It burns up the bearings after prolonged use (without producing a lot of torque).
Note that the free-spin down deceleration indicates that the bearing friction is not great.
...but most importantly, even heavy friction and pitted bearings would produce a noise that would be frequency dependent on the angular speed of the shaft. It is not.

I've also built a small version of this motor and I did get some respectable torque but the bearings ideally have to be cleaned out of grease and then 'oiled' with a lithium based lubricant or other high grade lubricant. With appropriate 'preparation', I would not envisage a considerable amount of damage to the bearings over the period of running in the demo. With heavy flywheels and bearings in reasonable condition, the spin down could be quite smooth as we see in the video. The quality of the bearings would also be a factor in this as there is a big difference in quality v price. I'm not convinced that the motor was in fact fully driving the generator! Its also feasible that TK had some experience building this type of motor, so could have optimised its performance at this scale of build. The saw noise is rather strange but I don't see why it has to necessarily be directly related to the motor running speed and could be down to the cause that Grum suggested. At least at this point in time, I give the Marinov motor more credence than an NMR modus operandi.

Сергей В.

Quote from: NickZ on April 19, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
  The sound emitted from the yoke in the Russian (no battery, no ground) video, is not anything like my yokes are producing.  That sounds is more like an iron transformer would make, on a higher amp grid power. Not a ringing sound like mine produce at times. My yokes make no noise and no heat is noticed, until it kicks into the higher resonant state. At which time much brighter light is produced, as well as heat on the transistors, ferrite coils, Cfls, etz...
  I am very curious to know if the same effect (1kw) can be had by using non-ferrite normal iron transformers, as also mentioned by the original poster of that video, to produce even more output. There are some videos may already be showing that kind of device. I will look for them.
  BTW: That video is quite an eye opener, one that I will never, ever, forget.  Also similar in how the components heats up like the TPU devices, after a while, and I'm sure some types vibrations are also present, as well. All most interesting.

  There are yoke cores of various sizes which can easily be obtained at most Tv repair shops. Possibly, even for  free.
I have a 34" Crt Tv with a relatively huge 6" yoke, as well, which may be good for some projects in the near future.


Hi NickZ

What are you think - does iron core transformer can work on 35kHz or more and can you make High Quality Plasma welding on 12 volt consuming 4 Amp using 3mm diameter welding rods ?

If you like hand job - a lot of experimenting try big bunch of welding rods instead any ferrite or iron core transformer and see the results with your own eyes.

Does 1kwatt or more power can held the stage by using non-ferrite normal high power iron core transformers ? Answer you can find in this Dally eye opener video

Using resonance in welding technique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTDB3NVxOP0

Dally channel on Tube
http://www.youtube.com/user/131313den

And one more thing .. from that step to HHO gas is just a little move. It mean no more f//// ILLUMINATI CABAL GAS !! It mean overdrive for Free. Check J.L.Naudin channel for more info about HHO reactor !!

Удачи всех благ !!

Hoppy

Quote from: Grumage on April 19, 2013, 02:51:39 PM
Dear Verpies,

Well as I have stuck my neck out this far I might as well go the whole hog! You may recall your post to me yesterday about this motor? You said the shaft would have to be made from Fibreglass or as I suspect any such non magnetic material? Clearly this motor runs with a Steel shaft. So at the end of the shaft where the Torroidal coil slips over you could have a rectangular Neo magnet keyed longtidudinally and said torroid coil have 3 distinct "phase areas" to kickstart the Marinov Bearing Motor effect. The rest is what you see and hear. Having worked around large woodworking machinery, large diameter saw blades just idleing "ring and sing" that is what I hear.

Cheers Grum.

I think your suggestion about the torroidal coil slips being kick-starters could well be spot on! Good thinking.

verpies

Quote from: Grumage on April 19, 2013, 02:51:39 PM
Clearly this motor runs with a Steel shaft.
I know that it looks that way from the videos, but I have private information from an eyewitness in 2002 that the keyed steel shaft is not steel between the disks, and this little detail makes a lot of sense physically.

verpies

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
I give the Marinov motor more credence than an NMR modus operandi.
According to Occam's Razor you have to give it more credence. But while we are at it, wouldn't belts concealed in the pillow block bearing holders and pedestals, be even simpler?

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
I've also built a small version of this motor and I did get some respectable torque
>> 1kW of torque ?

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
but the bearings ideally have to be cleaned out of grease and then 'oiled' with a lithium based lubricant or other high grade lubricant.
I had to clean them out, too.

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
With appropriate 'preparation', I would not envisage a considerable amount of damage to the bearings over the period of running in the demo.
Didn't your bearings get hot very quickly and started to smell and even smoke?

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
With heavy flywheels and bearings in reasonable condition, the spin down could be quite smooth as we see in the video. The quality of the bearings would also be a factor in this as there is a big difference in quality v price.
Very good bearings might last several hours but it would be hard to miss their smell and heat. 
Also they have to be supplied with 100s of Amps of current and those bearing posts both appear solidly welded to the metal base and therefore shorted together electrically.

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
I'm not convinced that the motor was in fact fully driving the generator!
Really?!  What do you think was powering those lights and why did the lights stayed dark when the V-belt was taken off the generator pulley (note that the wiring did not change)?

Quote from: Hoppy on April 19, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
The saw noise is rather strange but I don't see why it has to necessarily be directly related to the motor running speed and could be down to the cause that Grum suggested.
The point is that the properties of the saw-like sound are not related to the angular speed of the shaft at all.  They are, however, related to the angular acceleration of the shaft. This is incompatible with the behavior of hidden belts in the pillow blocks and with the behavior of Marinov Motors.
I have no 100% proof but that saw-like sound seems to be related to the process that is responsible for the acceleration of the shaft.  The temporal correlation is 100%.

Also, watch the video at the time indexes 36:54 and 40:32 and notice that the bearing noise is also clearly audible, but it is a completely different sound from the saw-like sound.
The bearing sound  begins as a low rumble and then increases its frequency and amplitude proportionally to the angular speed of the shaft (eventually drowning out the constant amplitude of the saw-like sound) ...and this bearing noise decreases in the same manner during spin-downs.

Grum's explanation about singing saw blades does not fit here because the "singing' frequency of these blades is strongly dependent on their angular speeds (RPMs).
Also, there are no saw-blades anywhere in sight. So what would make a constant frequency and a constant amplitude sound resembling a saw, and why is this saw-like sound audible, only when the shaft is accelerating?

@Hoppy, Grum,
Don't be afraid to argue for the Marinov Motor idea.  I want an intelligent conversation about this and I will not be offended if you oppose my interpretations.  In fact I welcome them if they are based on rigorous thinking.
I welcome your input and I will accept it if it makes logical sense.

Please consider my "acoustic" arguments rigorously.