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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: baroutologos on June 08, 2010, 03:45:14 AM
...Never the output lamps he ever put have achieved full brightness.
Now, the "2Kw" video shows lamps smoldering, making difficult even to tell if the COP is close to unity.
...
Anyway. The whole projects is a bit mess till now. What's the displacement current's real role there, how grounds contribute and why does not match impedance is a question mark.

Hi baroutologos

I share your opinion.
Firstly, experimental evidence of OU is not given. Even if light bulbs were very bright, reverse HF currents towards the electric grid can totally disturb the power measurement (this phenomenon has been used to defraud the electricity providers by reducing the apparent consumption measured by house wattmeters when the wattmeter principle is based on induced current in a disk).

Secondly a theory based on displacement currents can't explain OU.
In the atoms of a dielectric, an electric field shifts the electronic cloud. As the electrons are no more centered around their positive nucleus, atoms act like dipoles. If the electric field is changing, these dipoles align along the electric field, causing the displacement currents.
But this current is not a "free current". It can be easily viewed considering capacitors: we need more energy to charge a capacitor when we have replaced air between plates by a matter of higher permittivity. This is because the dielectric stores energy, that energy used to do work for shifting the electrons.
Sure, a wave of displacement currents through a dielectric doesn't consume energy, unlike a current in a (not superconducting) conductor: AC current in a capacitor proves it. Nevertheless this current do not produce useful work. Thus displacement currents are not enough to explain the Kananadze's device principle. May be they are not even needed.

Only a looped device could be convincing.






wings


xenomorphlabs

Quote from: wings on June 08, 2010, 05:25:10 AM
in parallel with the lamps Gas-Discharge protection?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg243870#msg243870


According to the lecturer from the posted videos, the magnetic field created by the displacement current is bigger then the magnetic field created by the current in the wire around the wire. That could be the advantage of using displacement currents. Apart from that i also don´t
see yet where this comes into play in the actual device. Maybe applied to the "earth capacitor" model?

Naudin would be better off using big headlines in his videos like
"I DO NOT CLAIM OU !", because otherwise people don´t get it into their heads, that he never did lol.

slapper

Quote from: wings on June 08, 2010, 05:25:10 AM
in parallel with the lamps Gas-Discharge protection?

I understand the attraction to these arrestors. Several years ago when I was trying to get lower spark gap voltages
(120 to 250 volts) I ordered these things from about 3 different manufacturers. They are a great deal slower than a
spark gap and they then will tend to dissipate some heat. From memory, their reaction times where micro seconds
as opposed to nano seconds.

Take care.

nap
we are not alone :)

wings