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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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captainkt

@Zeit, I believe it is all copper soldered together, and around base if you look close are either diodes or transistors bolted in the side.The picture needs enhancing, Kapanadze work bench in the bedroom vid shows lots of copper bits and cuttings.
Regards
Keith

verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
Supposed there is only space (we are alone <snip> nothing at all around us) then how to measure the magnitude
by its relation to time.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
...and the direction of that space?
scalar direction - by its relation to time
vectorial direction - by its relation to another gravitating observer or gravitating reference point.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
How can I measure the magnitude of space when there is nothing in this space hence I do not have any point of reference?
Only with time. Actually, it is impossible to measure space without involing time in it somehow.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
How can I measure a direction when there is no reference point to determine an angle?
It is impossible to determine vectorial direction without additional points of reference.
...and that's the beauty of it - the reference system of our daily lives is defined by gravitating reference points (or observers) and non-gravitating observers define another type* of reference system.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
Perhaps we should drop the properties magnitude and direction as well. When we define space as »nothing« then this nothing cannot have any properties.
We should not. I did not define space of our daily lives as "nothing" - I defined it as a geometric reference system... created by gravitating observers.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
The Earth's electric field is all around me.
What is an electric field?  What are its mechanical properties and interactions?

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
Now I take a Faraday cage and then I close it (could be a metallic cooking pot with a lid). The laws of physics now say a field captured inside the cage creates an electric charge on the inside-wall and an opposite charge on the outside-wall.
If you are referring to that Feynman lecture, then it was an electric charge that was trapped in the pot, not an electric "field".

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
Now I take a wire and short-circuit (maybe through a load) the inside with the outside of the cage's wall.
The cage is already conductive so nothing will change.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
This should briefly generate an electric current.
No it shouldn't, because those opposite charges on the surfaces of the pot have been separated by a force originating from that central charge trapped in the pot and that central charge is still there keeping those surface charges separated, so they will not "want" to attract back together, despite having an easy path through the conductive wall of the pot/cage.

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* "another type" of reference system means a reference system that cannot be made equivalent by any combination of translations and rotations.   Such other types of reference systems do not constitute the space of our daily lives anymore.
This is also the reason why I am so careful to put the words "of our daily lives" after the word "space" every time I use it. 

At this stage of discussion I expect you to be fixated on the concept of space of our daily lives and ignorant of the existence of other types of spatial and temporal reference systems as well as relationships between them.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: captainkt on November 13, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
@Zeit, I believe it is all copper soldered together
Believing is not knowing.

Quote from: verpies on November 13, 2013, 08:00:59 AM
by its relation to time.
scalar direction - by its relation to time
So what is time? In an empty space there is nothing, but we can't measure time with nothing. :D

Quote from: verpies on November 13, 2013, 08:00:59 AM
If you are referring to that Feynman lecture, then it was an electric charge that was trapped in the pot, not an electric "field".
And this charge then created a field in the pot. Hence does it make a difference whether I put a charge in a cage (that creates a field) or a field straightaway?

Quote from: verpies on November 13, 2013, 08:00:59 AM
The cage is already conductive so nothing will change.
No, it shouldn't because the force from that central trapped charge in the pot, that keeps those opposite surface charges separated is still there and will keep the surface charges, so they will not want to attract back together despite having an easy path through the conductive wall of the pot/cage.
Is that a theoretical »No« or a practical »No«? Because there has to be a good reason for Kapanadze to shield his device carefully.

The wire of a transformer's secondary coil is also »already conductive«. Nevertheless I can get current out of it when connecting both ends together. Actually the wall of the cage has to be conductive otherwise there would be no closed electric circuit.

Have the strange feeling we are very close to something. At least in dry theory.

Сергей В.

Why magnetic field doesn't exist on temperature 4.2K with very high current density of 1e6 A/cm^2.  THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL DATA !!!!!!!

The Josef Newman has a right. CURRENT IS NOT A SOURCE OF MAGNETIC FIELD !!

OTHER ANOMALIES I WILL NOT MENTION YOU - TO STOP WHIRLPOOLING YOUR MIND !!

COMPLETE TODAY "SCIENCE" CORRECT WORD "IGNORANCE" IS OUT OF GOOD HEALTH LOGIC AND MIND - HER MAIN GOAL TODAY IS COMPLETE ABSURD !!

IN NATURE DOES NOT EXIST NOR POSITIVE CHARGES NOR NEGATIVE !! EVERYTHING IS MUCH MUCH SIMPLER AND IN SAME TIME ABSOLUTELY GENIOUS !! THANKS MOTHER NATURE !!  :D

DO YOU REALY THINK MOTHER NATURE IS SO STUPID TO ANNIHILATE YOURSELF ??


READ THE BOOK "FINAL APPEAL TO MANKIND {AND LAST}" - MAYBE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND - END OF CIVILIZATION !!




verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 08:35:20 AM
Hence does it make a difference whether I put a charge in a cage (that creates a field) or a field straightaway?
Yes, because this field is a field of forces caused by a charge.
The lesson learned from that should be the mechanism by which the charge causes those forces at a distance.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 08:35:20 AM
Is that a theoretical »No« or a practical »No«?
Both :(

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 13, 2013, 08:35:20 AM
The wire of a transformer's secondary coil is also »already conductive«. Nevertheless I can get current out of it when connecting both ends together.
That is different because in that case we have a time a time varying magnetic field that does work by pushing the charges away.
In your pot/cage system, the work was supposed to be done by the attraction of separated opposite charges coming together.