Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[kalem]

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Its not that easy ... principle of SR device is unknown
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When I say principle of SR, I mean to prove that his setup works, to replicate it, not theoretical, mathematical model that describes his device. It would be great to know full theory, but for the beginning, successful replication will satisfy us.

[callanan]

Kapanadze Device vs Kapagen,

IMO, this is in no way similar. Naudin uses two grounds, thus current flows from MOT-coil-load-ground1-ground2-MOT
whereas kapanadze uses only 1 ground and cannot understand how he achieves this current flow. (capacitances is the problem)

Secondly the HV source. Kapanadze device uses too few current at HV just as a part to the procedure. That kind of power could not originate from HV.
Xenomorphlabs, has noted that Kapanadze device works more or less as a poweress device when the two trasistors are plainly operated and afterwards when spark kicks in, full potential is achieved.

See that clearly in the geo.avi (25:10) time. When the first switch is on and transistors/fan is enabled the voltage accross load is 12-16 volts. When the spark kicks in it goes over 200volts.

IMO
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We should look Naudin's Kapagen as "Naudigen", since it is unlikely Kapanadze gave diagrams to Naudin and also unlikely that both devices work on same principle.

Some very good points here but I must point out one important similarity, and that is of course the coil. As far as I know, Kapanadze's coil is unique and I believe this is the main thing that JLN has replicated and so decided to call his device the Kapagen in respect to Kapanadze. If he called it something else of his own name, then surely it will be said that he copied Kapanadze's coil and device... Just my opinion.

[exnihiloest]

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IMO, this is in no way similar. Naudin uses two grounds, thus current flows from MOT-coil-load-ground1-ground2-MOT
whereas kapanadze uses only 1 ground and cannot understand how he achieves this current flow. (capacitances is the problem)
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In Kapanadze's patent WO 2008/103130, there is only one ground but there are two coupled coils acting as a transformer, each circuit at the primary and the secondary being closed, so that the current can flows in each side, and at first glance of an electronics viewpoint, the earth plays no role.

[xenomorphlabs]

In Kapanadze's patent WO 2008/103130, there is only one ground but there are two coupled coils acting as a , each circuit at the primary and the secondary being closed, so that the current can flows in each side, and at first glance of an electronics viewpoint, the earth plays no role.

The thing is that nobody actually knows for what device that patent actually is!

For the green box? Unlikely, way too many components in the secondary path where his lamps are directly connected in the video.

The aquarium? At least there is more stuff in there, even though it might be just to obscure the view.

The small device that was powered with a 9V battery in that glamour demonstration with the guy in the overall? Who knows?

@kalem:

When I say principle of SR, I mean to prove that his setup works, to replicate it, not theoretical, mathematical model that describes his device. It would be great to know full theory, but for the beginning, successful replication will satisfy us.

Nobody knows the exact principle (only speculation), nobody is in contact with him. You will be working in the dark before you understand the principle.
No successful replication yet (not even close).
But try it, maybe you find something.

Some very good points here but I must point out one important similarity, and that is of course the . As far as I know, Kapanadze's coil is unique and I believe this is the main thing that JLN has replicated and so decided to call his device the Kapagen in respect to Kapanadze. If he called it something else of his own name, then surely it will be said that he copied Kapanadze's coil and device... Just my opinion.

Callanan, that is a good point. Probably really everybody would have just because of the coil called it a Kapanadze replication.
The funny thing is though that his coil only remotely looks similar to Kapanadze´s green box coil, but apart from that it is wound totally different, monofilar and not  polyifilar.

@baroutologos:

Secondly the HV source. Kapanadze device uses too few current at HV just as a part to the procedure. That kind of power could not originate from HV.

They clamped the wire from the inverter to the green box and got a 0.3 Amp reading which roughly equates to 70-80 Watts being used by the device.
You are totally right, the HV part probably uses maybe 5-10 Watts from those 80 Watts, so something in the green box must operate at 70 Watts and that something is most likely to contain the transistor pair that would need a cooling at those power levels.

Kapanadze might be an architect, but it amazes me that to the day that nobody came even close to a replication that would verify the wild speculations.

[bolt]

You have to decide what you are making either a Kapagen which has room for several improvements or a real Kapanadze device which operates completely different using low current 25khz HT carrier modulated LF using 50 watts fet driver.