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[forest]

@all,

Instead of trying to create a massive coil, is it not feasible to attempt this experiment on a single
core (toroid).

Would that not mean we could use lesser HV to achieve the magnetic flip.

Doesn't matter if you cannot light a number of 240v bulbs.

Proof of concept !

I think many of us have access to lesser HV sources.

Regards, Penno

Yeah,look at Mopozco videos

I tried to replicate one of them , not so easy really

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox63RvnlW08&feature=related

[forest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swV6ZxCb5fw&feature=related

[penno64]

Hey Forest,

I check his channel everyday.

He amazes me with his work.

Mind you, I wish I had a tenth of the success he has.

BTW, I need to get my hands on some HV caps. Seems not so easy here in Oz.

Guess I'll just ebay and wait.

Regards, Penno

p.s. I wish some one would give me a clue how to connect spark gap through to ground.

[iws1987]

Yeah, we are having similar results. I saw references in some of the literature to values as high as 18kv/cm, although the paper you referenced was only using 5kv/cm. I suspect that as the permeability of different ferrites is all over the map, so is the electrostatic permeability effect. Our ferrite rings are very high permeability and they are pretty thick. Thinner would obviously be helpful, and I suspect lower permeability may be more responsive as well.

This actually goes a long way toward explaining the varying results that people have had. If you don't start by evaluating exactly what it takes to effect parameter change in your particular core material, building and testing a complete system is pissin' in the wind...

I fully agree. I did no build, just added the two tubes and a HV capacitor, charged the capacitor and used my LC-meter.

Although the working principle is "simple" the devil is in the detail when building the control circuit.

So we have to find a suitable ferrite material. It will be very helpful if we check ferrite types as a group, and keep an updated document until a suitable material is found.

I did this check also the ferrite material (ur = my relative )

4S2 NiZn ur=850, E up to 10kV/cm, constant ur

To explore up to 18kV i need to make a small trippler. I think we are getting flash over problems if the ferrites are not not cleaned and insulated properly.

Eric

[iws1987]

@baroutogolos

Thank you for the Harward link. :-)

I checked the Ferroxcube main catalog for MnZn materials, and found these:
Mat  my relative
3E7 15000
3E8 18000
3E9 20000
3B1     900
3S1   4000
3S3     350
3S4    1700
3S5    3800

Checking the Epcos catalog it turns out N30 is a MnZn material (it did not work at 7kV/cm)

Other Epcos MnZn materials for power line chokes:
T35, T37, T38, T46, T56, T65

It might be a problem these MnZn materials have low ohmic resistance in the range 1-10 ohm*meter.

This means it will take a lot of power to create the field. Actually the N30 material measures 5kohm when ohm'ing with test leads 5 mm apart.

So although I had HV on the tubes, the voltage drop must have been over the insulating materials, so the field inside the N30 material is much below the expected 7kV/cm.

To check better I removed the epoxy coating from a broken N30 toroid. Then I pressed copper foil onto the inner and outer surface. The resistance through an entire OD 25mm toroid is approx. 70 ohm.

The "lenght" of the conducting material is 5mm, so to achieve 4kV/cm I need 2 kV, which gives a radial current of 2000/70 = 28,6 A per toroid, and I have used 14 toroids for the coil !

Not very encouraging to use this material.

Any ideas ?

Eric