Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[wattsup]

@iceweller

Thanks for further breaking down the chronology of those events. It's not easy to follow so you need to think well what is happening and what this means.

So from both our descriptions, we can at least agree that the bulbs were finally being fully lit without the ground wire going through the TK transformer, Why am I trying to stress this fact or maybe overly stress this fact is because in the TK device, the Earth ground goes directly to one side of the bulbs and nothing else.

SR's devices and many other diagrams are showing multiple connections to the Earth ground but TK is not using those to go to any of the coils, etc. The only other time there is a connection going to the Earth ground is when he connects his black box to loop the system hence to remove the battery.

So in my book, any build that has wires connected to the Earth ground are not even close to the TK device and are far from being what I would call an "open to load" design.

You see, for the TK device to work it does not need a ground from Earth. It already has the ground (negative) from the battery but even then that disappears inside the inverter to become AC current that is running a high voltage transformer that still outputs again AC but that is then rectified to produce a positive and a negative furtherance for the spark gap and TK coils.

So at any given time on that Earth ground you can have one lead going to the bulbs and one lead going to the loop station, but anything else is simply wrong. This is why SR's device is not a TK device and should not be considered as a TK device but an SR device.

Maybe one last thing on the SR device. TK's demo was open and easy to see no wires were used to bypass the system and energize the bulbs, etc. But in SR's demo, there is always this close up of the camera that is very disconcerting and especially I noticed at time 04:18:552 there is a wire on the ground that comes upwards. See the photo below. I wonder if any of the Russian OUers have asked him about this wire.

Anyways, I will be ordering some cores so I will start experimenting with this soon enough.

wattsup

[kooler]

wattsup
there are some photos on this website will show you where those wires go

http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/overunity.com/

here is a direct link to one of them..
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/overunity.com/SR193_new_pic.jpg

robbie

[TEKTRON]

@Cosmo

In the magnetic amplifier article the author mentions a trick to get rid of transformer action in the setup by using two transformers out of phase in series. Is this trick very important?

What article using 2 transformers and author?. I must have missed it ..Please re-post, Thanks John

[iceweller]

@iceweller

Thanks for further breaking down the chronology of those events. It's not easy to follow so you need to think well what is happening and what this means.

So from both our descriptions, we can at least agree that the bulbs were finally being fully lit without the ground wire going through the TK transformer, Why am I trying to stress this fact or maybe overly stress this fact is because in the TK device, the Earth ground goes directly to one side of the bulbs and nothing else.

   Yes - but where is the difference, if to connect the lamp bank to the gnd through the coil (which they removed because the radiator wasn't properly grounded and could only power 3 lights) or directly to the faucet? The faucet, being a zinced iron tube running for miles all over the place is certainly better grounded than the buried radiator. Consider this: in some countries they do not use the Neutral in their power system but connect the phase and ground as return to get current. This of course has been banned in several western countries because of the possible dangers connected to faulty grounding as you can imagine. Neutral and Ground are usually "equipotential", and if not, the differential trips. What I mean to say is that a good ground connection is mandatory and this was purposely demonstrated by TK in that occasion.

SR's devices and many other diagrams are showing multiple connections to the Earth ground but TK is not using those to go to any of the coils, etc. The only other time there is a connection going to the Earth ground is when he connects his black box to loop the system hence to remove the battery.

So in my book, any build that has wires connected to the Earth ground are not even close to the TK device and are far from being what I would call an "open to load" design.

   Personally, even if there has been much discussion about this, I don't see major differences between TK's green box and SR's setup. Both devices create a modulated high frequency "ring" respect to ground. A potential difference is created. The 'SR' schematic which I believe is the most relevant is the one by MADSAT (even if the relay hasn't been indicated and the modulator chip should be replaced by a commercial 555 together with the 2 coupled 800V 5A 4MHz power transistors easily replaceable) - here you see 4 GND connections (2 for HV, load, Feedback). SR connected the HV coil and the load coil to GND but it would still work if the HV coil were connected to the negative (as it should be connected to GND!). In TK's coil it's not clear how these connections are routed but I'm pretty sure there is a gnd connection inside.

You see, for the TK device to work it does not need a ground from Earth. It already has the ground (negative) from the battery but even then that disappears inside the inverter to become AC current that is running a high voltage transformer that still outputs again AC but that is then rectified to produce a positive and a negative furtherance for the spark gap and TK coils.

   Well, to be precise, the gnd doesn't get lost: small single phase inverters/UPS devices have one of their outputs wired to GND (creating Neutral) while the other is the active phase. This has to be so in order to comply with standards and avoid differential tripping (though this sometimes happens if you have several UPSs on the same power line).
So the negative of the battery is connected to GND which is connected to the Neutral output. If you have any UPS, use a tester and check: make it run and with the tester in AC Volts measure the voltage from the negative of the battery and both outputs, one will read 0 Volts. The battery could be isolated or left "floating" but for safety reasons it has to be tied to GND - at least on commercially available devices.

Maybe one last thing on the SR device. TK's demo was open and easy to see no wires were used to bypass the system and energize the bulbs, etc. But in SR's demo, there is always this close up of the camera that is very disconcerting and especially I noticed at time 04:18:552 there is a wire on the ground that comes upwards. See the photo below. I wonder if any of the Russian OUers have asked him about this wire.

   Yes this has been cleared: it's the black lamp wire that simply goes under the table and comes back up as it was just long (as SR moves the lamp around but for demoing he put it beside the coil).

   I'm still not certain about the coil windings. The HV excitation coil starts out blue and ends orange in SR's setup. What happens in the middle has to be acertained.

   Good luck with your experimenting. I'll still have to wait for next month when hopefully I can start some again too.

   Merry XMas to all btw!

[forest]

Merry Christmas!

http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/RadioDetectorDevelopment.htm

Look carefully, many interesting ideas and among them is SR device I believe 
"The detector illustrated at Fig. 4 is the well-known Rutherford-Marconi Magnetic Detector"

I think that Kapanadze and SR are TWO different devices.