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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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quarktoo

Here is another clue - notice how the wires go in off to the side in one end and out the center in the other? Most likely a rod inside a metal tube or a screen.

iceweller

Quote from: quarktoo on January 28, 2011, 11:59:11 PM
First off, in 1891, x-ray had not even been invented yet. In 1891, Tesla, who researched cold electricity had no clue about accelerators. I think I can form my own thoughts based on my own experience.

Here are some Tesla quotes to help you put him into perspective:

Now, I must tell you of a strange experience which bore fruit in my later life. ... We had a cold [snap] drier that ever observed before. People walking in the snow left a luminous trail behind them and a snowball thrown against an obstacle gave a flare of light like a loaf of sugar hit with a knife. [As I stroked] MaÃ,,ak's back, [it became] a sheet of light and my hand produced a shower of sparks. ... My father ... remarked, this is nothing but electricity, the same thing you see on the trees in a storm. My mother seemed alarmed. Stop playing with the cat, she said, he might start a fire. I was thinking abstractly. Is nature a cat? If so, who strokes its back? It can only be God, I concluded. ...
I cannot exaggerate the effect of this marvelous sight on my childish imagination. Day after day I asked myself what is electricity and found no answer. Eighty years have gone by since and I still ask the same question, unable to answer it.
â€" Nikola Tesla


The idea of atomic energy is illusionary but it has taken so powerful a hold on the minds, that although I have preached against it for twenty-five years, there are still some who believe it to be realizable.
â€" Nikola Tesla

    I have no clue where you are getting at. Tesla did not research "cold electricity", Tesla researched the nature of electricity and magnetism and it's connection to the ether. You say "cold electricity", not Tesla - but you also underline his opposition to Relativism. Yes, Tesla was vehemently opposed to it and yes he stated that there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment. If by this you intend to say he was way off track and incorrect, then I can suggest 2 alternatives: check your premises or lead your own path as you are free to do so. And I'm sorry but Tesla started as far back as 1887 to research X-rays (he found some "plates" were "impressed" randomly during experiments and was intrigued) though he did not categorise them as such and did not write articles on the Electrical Review until 1896 (though he did exchange x-rays with Roentgen himself before showing his radiographs of feet and hands). If Tesla's lab on Houston street hadn't burned down he would have officially predated Roentgen (though he did, unofficially). These are facts.

   I apologise to all as this is leading off-topic to a pure Tesla diatribe. After 20 years of research on Tesla's life and works, I have become intollerant to any further disinformation. Anyone who has doubts can read his researches and writings and articles and additional patent interference transcripts and documents recovered by Leland Anderson, my friend Oliver Nichelson and J.T Ratzlaff. I have no intention on wasting anymore of my time on scholastic confrontation at this point as I have had enough of them, from pseudo researchers to university "professors". I have my point of view and I am entitled to it. I do not wish to impose it on others, but I do not wish to see factual misinformation regarding Tesla spread further, and it is full in these forums. It is simple: if one is not constructive, despite his views and opinions, he is not only useless, but a direct threat to clear reasoning and thus destructive. This is not a problem for myself, but a potential problem for the hundreds of unprepared people that are reading here and are constantly deceived and mislead - however this is the plague of our era.
"Nihil in sacculo quod non fuerit in capite" (Nikola Tesla - 1904).

Ghost_Rider

Quote from: iceweller on January 28, 2011, 11:11:05 PM
  I'm sorry but NO. Tesla absolutely says the opposite and mentions no such thing as "cold current" - ever:

Permanently skewed?

your english is better than you write

Nikola Tesla on His Wok with Alternating Currents and Their Application to Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony, and Transmission of Power

I  have book

Page 75

Counsel
Let's see if I understand you correctly.  If ou have radiation or electromagnetic waves going from your system, the energy is wasted?

Tesla
Absolutely wasted.  From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the energy that passes through the earth.  Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the earth that passes through the earth.

Both currents like I say.

Cold current just mean than wire not get hot with a big current.  All current is energy motion.

quarktoo

Quote from: iceweller on January 29, 2011, 12:53:23 AM
    I have no clue where you are getting at. Tesla did not research "cold electricity", Tesla researched the nature of electricity and magnetism and it's connection to the ether. You say "cold electricity", not Tesla - but you also underline his opposition to Relativism. Yes, Tesla was vehemently opposed to it and yes he stated that there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment. If by this you intend to say he was way off track and incorrect, then I can suggest 2 alternatives: check your premises or lead your own path as you are free to do so. And I'm sorry but Tesla started as far back as 1887 to research X-rays (he found some "plates" were "impressed" randomly during experiments and was intrigued) though he did not categorise them as such and did not write articles on the Electrical Review until 1896 (though he did exchange x-rays with Roentgen himself before showing his radiographs of feet and hands). If Tesla's lab on Houston street hadn't burned down he would have officially predated Roentgen (though he did, unofficially). These are facts.

   I apologise to all as this is leading off-topic to a pure Tesla diatribe. After 20 years of research on Tesla's life and works, I have become intollerant to any further disinformation. Anyone who has doubts can read his researches and writings and articles and additional patent interference transcripts and documents recovered by Leland Anderson, my friend Oliver Nichelson and J.T Ratzlaff. I have no intention on wasting anymore of my time on scholastic confrontation at this point as I have had enough of them, from pseudo researchers to university "professors". I have my point of view and I am entitled to it. I do not wish to impose it on others, but I do not wish to see factual misinformation regarding Tesla spread further, and it is full in these forums. It is simple: if one is not constructive, despite his views and opinions, he is not only useless, but a direct threat to clear reasoning and thus destructive. This is not a problem for myself, but a potential problem for the hundreds of unprepared people that are reading here and are constantly deceived and mislead - however this is the plague of our era.
"Nihil in sacculo quod non fuerit in capite" (Nikola Tesla - 1904).

Tesla researched the high frequency effects on human thinking from what I recall reading. I don't think his whole life is encompassed in his patents. That cold stinging discharge that comes from a DC arc is what people call cold electricity - it is electron cascade effect and that science is so rock solid don't even go there.

Now to think that the master of sparks Tesla didn't have a clue about electron cascade or the effect on a human would be silly. And what happens when mass loses energy? I gets colder (Bohn model of the atom) and that is rock solid science.

Telsa is a religion for some people - I am an atheist.

That being said - I feel Tesla was absolutely correct about the atom. It is an effect of two energies not the source so don't get me wrong, Tesla was the man, Linderman and others have written a lot of BS and neither of us were there. So we agree on more than you may realize.

Maybe if you stop being a butthead, I will tell you something about Tesla you probably don't know. ;D

iceweller

Quote from: Ghost_Rider on January 29, 2011, 01:04:47 AM
Permanently skewed?

your english is better than you write

Nikola Tesla on His Wok with Alternating Currents and Their Application to Wireless Telegraphy, Telephony, and Transmission of Power

I  have book

Page 75

Counsel
Let's see if I understand you correctly.  If ou have radiation or electromagnetic waves going from your system, the energy is wasted?

Tesla
Absolutely wasted.  From my circuit you can get either electromagnetic waves, 90 percent of electromagnetic waves if you like, and 10 percent in the energy that passes through the earth.  Or, you can reverse the process and get 10 percent of the energy in electromagnetic waves and 90 percent in energy of the earth that passes through the earth.

Both currents like I say.

Cold current just mean than wire not get hot with a big current.  All current is energy motion.

  Please, these are not 2 electricities here. Tesla is merely describing his wireless transmission system which does *not* make use of EM wave propagation (RF) (this is minimised and the "antenna" is replaced by a "tank"), but "conduction" through the earth itself; applying an oscillating HV potential difference between his Wardenclyffe elevated capacity and ground he is "pumping" charges into the earth (check his news paper article if not clear). This is the same effect you would get with 2 capacitor plates: when charging one plate, what happens instantly to the other? Don't tell me you missed this.

  N.B. Tesla did NOT use EM PROPAGATION to transmit power without wires. The basic transmitter and tuned receiver circuit is the same but was totally misinterpreted by Marconi and Hertz which is also why there were many patent interference cases. Nobody even knew what the difference was at the time, let alone distinguish between "Hertzian" transmissions and electric field "conduction" (actually, still today!). The Fessenden patent intereference transcripts are a good read.