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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Pirate88179

This is the first time I noticed this and, if it has been discussed previously, I am sorry to bring it up again.

That coil now appears to me to be a heating element from some resistance heater.  Notice the thin wire coming out of the center and the white area looks like it could be the high temp insulation common in those types of elements.  You can clearly see the thinner wire exiting the thick tube.

Does anyone else see this or was it discussed before?  If it is just a thick tube then why is the thinner wire inside of it?  Did TK fill it with some insulator material himself?  Be very hard to do without it shorting out somewhere inside.

Am I nuts here?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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core

Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 02, 2011, 12:31:55 PM
This is the first time I noticed this and, if it has been discussed previously, I am sorry to bring it up again.

That coil now appears to me to be a heating element from some resistance heater.  Notice the thin wire coming out of the center and the white area looks like it could be the high temp insulation common in those types of elements.  You can clearly see the thinner wire exiting the thick tube.

Does anyone else see this or was it discussed before?  If it is just a thick tube then why is the thinner wire inside of it?  Did TK fill it with some insulator material himself?  Be very hard to do without it shorting out somewhere inside.

Am I nuts here?

Bill

Bill,

  They do make resistive heating wire that will easily pass through 1/4" or 3/8" copper tubing. The question is 'What is the benefit of that?'. If a steady current is placed on the wire I'm sure the resistance, electrically, of the copper tube would change with the heat increase. Maybe a 'poor man's' high voltage resister? Don't know.

Slightly off topic. I have always wondered about that story were a wire is stretched out one mile and raised 18" off the ground. A light bulb is added at the end and connected to the earth. On the other end power is applied and if you disconnect from the power supply fast enough and insert the wire into ground the light bulb a mile away will stay on.
  Wire has resistance and capacitance. If we know the capacitance and resistance of a mile long wire then what would be the difference in using a five foot wire and components for the resistance and capacitance? What would be the difference?

Respectfully,

Core 

core

Quote from: core on March 02, 2011, 03:39:21 PM

......... Slightly off topic. I have always wondered about that story were a wire is stretched out one mile and raised 18" off the ground. A light bulb is added at the end and connected to the earth. On the other end power is applied and if you disconnect from the power supply fast enough and insert the wire into ground the light bulb a mile away will stay on.
  Wire has resistance and capacitance. If we know the capacitance and resistance of a mile long wire then what would be the difference in using a five foot wire and components for the resistance and capacitance? What would be the difference?

Respectfully,

Core

To answer my own question. The mile long wire has 'Distributed' capacitance and the other situation contains 'Concentrated' capacitance. Learn something new everyday.

Respectfully,

Core

dllabarre

Quote from: core on March 02, 2011, 03:39:21 PM
Bill,

  They do make resistive heating wire that will easily pass through 1/4" or 3/8" copper tubing.

Respectfully,

Core

They also make very small copper tubing for refrigerator water lines.
1/4 inch outside diameter.
Could easily be rolled to make a coil...

DonL

iceweller

About the wires - I thought this had already been discussed here, but I must have confused it with the russian forums or some correspondence. I have attached a couple of pics for explanation:

- The Green HV wire from the Spark Gap seems to lead to the thick copper coil, though I cannot confirm this - it could lead back into the box but is unlikely as it wouldn't make sense.
- The Blue wire on the top right of the box leads to the other side of the thick copper coil (right hand side, near where it exits, check pic) and is connected through possibly a component (capacitor or resistor) after about half a turn which is covered in what appears aluminum before connecting to the copper coil.
- The orange output wire comes out from the right hand side of the coil and can be seen in the dismounted coil video - check attachment (it has the "blue tape" in the middle which you can also see when it is mounted on the GB).
- The white "internal coil" wire leads back into the Green Box (you can see it pass through the 2nd turn of the copper coil where it is cut)
- An additional orange "internal coil" wire near the white one also leads back into the GB. These wires are again visible in the dismounted picture and short video which I made and linked several posts ago.
- A long white (end looks yellowish in the video) wire is visible at the dismounted coil part, probably the other end of the coil made with the first white wire.

   In the inside of the GB there probably is a rectified low voltage high power transformer to drive the transistors, similar to the one he used to step the 220V back down to 12. The input line voltage is probably used to fire the external SG through an NST which is in phase with the input - a MOT would be really too heavy to lift so easily, but cannot be excluded. The SG is firing at 50Hz based on the input voltage phase timing (from the inverter in this case). I believe this first rudimentary design did not have any particular in dependant timing electronics to generate the 50Hz, he merely used the input sine to trigger the spark gap. The spark gap is adjusted, through a limiting resistor and cap (maybe covered by the aluminum) so it fires properly at every peak. He may have used a decoupled rectified feedback to drive the transistor bases in sync with the SG (a simple coil inside the GB wound around the HV wire) to drive the white wire coil.

   As you can see, the whole design has been somewhat misinterpreted.