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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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verpies

Quote from: Jdo300 on November 12, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

Yes, the inventor's description of the tuning procedure is very ungrammatical, unclear and ambiguous.
This is most likely due to the language barrier.
I would like to clear up these points you raised , too.

verpies

Quote from: Hope on November 13, 2011, 01:36:48 AM
There are FREE function generator software and signal generator software available on the net that uses your sound card

Sound cards are incapable of outputting frequency needed to drive the Transverse Windings (copper strips) or the HF 50-turn coil. They are useless above 24kHz.


T-1000

Quote from: Mannix on November 12, 2011, 07:17:50 PM
@t1000
Here is our proplem. we have language problem that is possibly responsible for the issue
But at last A circuit!!! No component detail but at least we can see and use available components ..and we can see how it might lock to its master . Yet you say it is not good ?
If it is ferroresonsnce then the ferrite , surely is very important
1. Is the ferrite in your working unit conductive?
2. What circuit are you using to drive the 50 turn?
Please check http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/ for frequent updates. Here's what you're looking for: http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/Aidas_SHEMATIC_2.jpg

The deflection yoke ferrite - not sure what you mean with "conductive?"
And the amplifier cascade for generators:
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/sustiprinimo_kaskadas.jpg

The generator on 50 turns coil feeds in square wave.
The 15 turns get sine wave of AC ~50Hz.

Quote from: Jdo300 on November 12, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback :). I just want to be clear on a few points. From what you described, my current understanding is that once we find the core frequency, we want all the other coils in the system to resonate at some sub-harmonic of the core frequency?
We want 50 turns coil to resonate on sub-harmonic frequency of ferroresonance what is determined after pulsing copper plates -> 15 turns coil output. So it will be in sync with main resonant frequency. If you apply applying sub-harmonic frequency to copper plates just for testing, you will still see sinus wave out on 15 turns coil and you will still see ferroresoant main frequency as maximum peak over spectrum analizer.

Quote from: Jdo300 on November 12, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

1. Find the core frequency by pulsing the copper strip and observing the output on the 15-turn coil and adjust the pulse rate (between 1-2MHz) to see the ferrite core's resonant frequency value, (Fcore).

2. Apply the found value, Fcore, to the copper strip while observing the output on the 50-turn coil. Sweep down from Fcore until the largest amplitude on the 50-turn coil is observed, F50-turn.

3. Apply the frequency F50-turn to the 50-turn coil and measure the response on the bifilar output coil. change F50-turn up and down to obtain the highest voltage output on the bifilar coil. This new frequency is F50-turn(optimal).

4. Add tuning capacitor to copper strip and adjust the LC resonance to match Fcore.

5. Apply 50 Hz sine wave input signal to the 15-turn coil and  add F50-turn(optimal) (square wave) to the 50-Turn coil. Observe the response on the bifilar output coil.

6. Adjust the 50Hz sine wave up and down a bit to maximize the output on the bifilar coil.

7. When adding output load, add tuning capacitor to match output load impedance for maximum power transfer.

Sorry for all the confusion, I just want to be sure I have a rock-solid understanding of the tuning procedure and of what signal inputs go where.

Point #2 is still a bit of a confusion to me. Once we have obtained Fcore from step 1, are we supposed to be looking for lower frequencies on the 50-turn coil that are exact harmonics of Fcore? Or are we simply looking for the highest amplitude natural resonant frequency of the 50-turn coil (with the understanding that we are not adding capacitance, just looking at the natural resonance).

Point #3 is also unclear to me for similar reasons as point 2. Once we find F50-turn, if we sweep it again while observing the bifilar coil's output, wont that mess things up since we found F50-turn to be optimal for the 50-turn coil?
The instructions seem to be almost correct.

Point #2 - we want to find maximum amplitude and sub-harmonic around 1/3 of the Fcore frequency while the Fcore is applied to copper plates and is not being changed. We are dealing with natural resonance, no caps ballast added. And the the side note - if you have too small / too large copper plates on the core, you won't find any significant sub-harmonic peaks inside of main wave.

Point #3 - When you apply F50-turn square wave to 50 turns coil you expect sinus wave on output of the bifilar coil. Then slightly adjust for maximum wave amplitude on output. This will be correct F50-turn then. Also it does not mess up with Fcore frequency when you attach and tune varicap on copper plates to Fcore frequency - the output on the bifilar coil increase even more.

Hopefully it will help to replicate :)


baroutologos

Quote from: Jdo300 on November 12, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
First, I want to repeat the tuning procedure in my own words to ensure that I have correctly comprehended what you are saying.

1. Find the core frequency...

Thank you,
Jason O

Personally Jason, i have not been conviced that the peak observed at 51 turns coil around 1.64 Mhz measured in the 51 turns coil (not in the 15 turns one as you say and being described in steps 1-3 at the Lithanian site) corresponds to any core ringing frequency and not in the 51turns fundamental LC frequency.

Not having personal experience so far, i can reasonably see that if any 50 turns coil (in closed yoke with paper spacer congiguration) has any 200-300uH inductance (as you suggested and other people as well) and the spectrum analyzer or o-scope + interwinding capacitance goes around 20-40pf then 1.3 to 2 Mhz fundamental ringing correspond to LC ringing frequency rather any NMR ferrite core frequency..

According my view, this problem will be clarified by a probe coil Lp 2-3 turns around ferrite yoke. (since its own fundamental LC frequency will be considerable higher than 1-2 Mhz range) if again it shows by whiting noise the copper strip, that exists a 1.6 MHz frequency peak or so, the it must be a particular ferrite frequency. If not, then there is not any.

Plain as that :)