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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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oscar

I agree, HeairBear.

I think Kapanaze (and Don L.Smith in his some of this circuits) manage to route the current of the groundloop through their output transformers, powering their loads from the secondary of these transformers.

There is a weird/unusual juggling of potentials (potential differences) involved to do this.

Have to try to write this up so that it becomes clear.
Or somebody else must.
Please.
The transmission was a '53 (Johnny Cash)

turbo

Quote from: oscar on July 19, 2009, 03:46:43 AM

Have to try to write this up so that it becomes clear.
Or somebody else must.


Or none of both.
How many people are actually trying this?

oscar

Basically both, Kapanaze and Smith
(see page 34 of his pdf-document http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf)
use a DC supply as initial signal source putting it through an oscillator (with spark gap) to provide an AC signal.

Now they transform this AC signal - best use a Tesla coil for that.
At the secondary they now end up with their “original high voltage AC signal”.

But it does not stop there, as then they rectify that signal.
And then take the resulting HV DC and create another AC signal from it (using an oscillator/inverter to do that).

Then they allow the two AC signals to make contact through ground (= groundloop).

It’s probably noteworthy that they start out with paying for only one signal. But now they have two: The original and kind of a twisted mirror image of that original (having undergone rectification and inversion).

Then they allow these two AC signals to make contact through ground (= groundloop).

They are not interested in the current between a signal and ground (which is what we usually utilize).

They want a current to develop between the two AC potentials.
Such a current develops due to the potential difference (= the differential or delta) of those two signals.

They put this groundloop current through the primary of their output transformers. From this transformer’s secondary they power their loads.

Is the above the correct description of how it works?
The transmission was a '53 (Johnny Cash)

flathunter

My top tip:

Dont try to film your tesla coil in action.  I've just broken my video camera  >:(  The frame just froze, and now it doesnt work!  The tesla coil is a powerful beast!  Dont underestimate her.  So sadly, no youtube link!!!!  (hopefully ill find the receipt, take it back to the shop, and get a new one)

On the other hand, the sacrifice wasnt without progress.  I can get neon lamps to light, and ive got a 12V diode torch which lights up lovely, when one end is connected to ground, and the other end is brought close to the node near the toroid.  As long as the spark gap fires, the torch lights. Looks just like the Russian video to me, but without a capacitor plate...just a sniffer wire as Yucca suggested.  I dont see any difference.  The Russian guy (not Kapanadze...the other vid with a simple small tesla coil) is just showing that you'll get current if you bring a wire close to the resonating coil.....

The question is, can we get more current, by just adding more load?  I'll go check right now.... 

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: oscar on July 19, 2009, 05:31:49 AM
Basically both, Kapanaze and Smith
(see page 34 of his pdf-document http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf)
use a DC supply as initial signal source putting it through an oscillator (with spark gap) to provide an AC signal.

Now they transform this AC signal - best use a Tesla coil for that.
At the secondary they now end up with their “original high voltage AC signal”.

But it does not stop there, as then they rectify that signal.
And then take the resulting HV DC and create another AC signal from it (using an oscillator/inverter to do that).

Then they allow the two AC signals to make contact through ground (= groundloop).

It’s probably noteworthy that they start out with paying for only one signal. But now they have two: The original and kind of a twisted mirror image of that original (having undergone rectification and inversion).

Then they allow these two AC signals to make contact through ground (= groundloop).

They are not interested in the current between a signal and ground (which is what we usually utilize).

They want a current to develop between the two AC potentials.
Such a current develops due to the potential difference (= the differential or delta) of those two signals.

They put this groundloop current through the primary of their output transformers. From this transformer’s secondary they power their loads.

Is the above the correct description of how it works?

@Oscar:
Okay let´s have a discussion about your interpretation.
To be correct the energy after the spark gap is called pulsed D.C. and not AC as it is not having a negative swing and no true 50/60 Hz waveform which the necessitates the Power correction measure after the aircore coil via the capacitor bank because frequency multiples have been introduced by the spark gap (and the rectifier).

Furthermore (since you bring up one of Don Smith´s diagrams) you argue that 2 DIFFERENT ground potentials are being used. That is not the case in this particular device. During a demonstration of the device it was clearly stated that they just used ONE copper pipe into the ground.
However maybe (?!) Kapanadze is doing that. There is even conflicting observations about that.
I have read in the russian forums that in the old video they simply buried the car cooler to show that it doesn´t have to be a water pipe system and that they actually disconnected the car cooler to connect to the water pipe (the cooler did not light the lamps as bright is what they said)

Still what the youtube experimenter has shown on his oscilloscope is an interesting phenomenon.
The groundloop can be introduced in sevral ways that might be trivial or not.
He used a kitchen sink water pipe that (at least in europe) is connected to the grounding system of the WHOLE residential house, which means that stray potentials from his neighbours` TVs and radios (that were connected to different strings of the house electricity) could be picked up and form a loop with his oscilloscope maybe. Just speculation.
I am sure he will investigate that further and i am excited to see what he finds out.