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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Yucca

Quote from: sparks on July 20, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
If you just use a cap it is like pulling the kid back once and requires alot of force compared to synchronizing small amounts of force applied at the proper intervals.

But surely when you sum all of the little correctly phased push energies together then it will sum to the same as the energy in one big push?

I just think (at the moment) that resonance in itself cannot explain any OU behaviour, it's a good tool for harvesting many small pushes (if they're phased correctly).

The way I see it is that only a theoretically perfect resonant system is a perfect energy store, you put 10 pushes into it and it will store the energy of those pushes and if it is perfect (has no R component) then it will not decay. But even the best real world tank will decay faster than a DC charged cap storing the same energy, due to R losses with each oscillation, so in this respect it could be considered inferior. Resonance sounds sexy but when you look at it as far as energy collection and storage goes it's not the best. Maybe I'm missing something here?

sparks

  @Jeanna
I did a resonance analogy about a year ago can't find it either.  I view an inductor as a hydraulic pump/motor with a flywheel attached.  When voltage or pressure differential is first applied to either side of the inductor no current flows because of the inertia of the attached flywheel. If the pressure differential across the motor is applied for too brief a period no current flows due to the inertia of the flywheel and the pulse or hf is said to be choked.  If applied for a longer period the inertia of the flywheel is overcome and current will flow even after the applied voltage is removed as the inductor pumps now instead of motorizing due to the flywheel inertia.  The capacitor plates are analogous to two pressure tanks one getting pumped up and one getting evacuated.  The proper combination of the flywheel and tank sizes allows for the system to shuffle pressure from one tank to the other well after the input pressure differential is removed.   Add pressure to the tank being evacuated and the flow in the system keeps increasing until the pipe restriction (resistance) limits the volume.  Then if you open a big valve fast the flow from one tank to the other will be many times the flow input to the evacuated tank.  Now you could just pump up one tank but you would need a pump that would be working directly against the backpressure of the tank you are pumping up. 
   High voltage is good because it keeps the size of your system managable.  High frequency likes to overload the field the device resides in and will go radiant real quick.  Nice if your broadcasting not so good if your trying to drive a motor or light bulbs.  I've seen guys fire up Tesla coils and you can't even pick it up on an am radio across the room yet you can light neons up just by putting them close to the inductor coils. 
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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: bolt on July 20, 2009, 05:12:14 PM
did he tell you this?  His o/p transformer will give him about 50,000 volts!

Hmm, have your ever read Kapanadze`s patent ?

The diagram clearly indicates the discussed coil to be a step-down transformer (see attachment)
Furthermore describes the patent phase and frequency correction stages after the main transformer to be directly given onto the feedback to the source and the output. There is no mention of further transformers.

In his old video a guy measures 28 Amps in the line to the lamps.
That matches 5KW only when his output voltage is 230 Volt.

That is my whole point. If he had 50 kV in there then the patent (esp. diagrams) is completely wrong

But if Kapanadze ever clearly stated the entirety of his device we would not speculate about it in this thread  ;)

Viktor Grieg assesses in his document:

QuoteThe primary coil is reeled up on a cardboard skeleton through which the thick wire of grounding is then stretched. The primary coil on dimensions is more thin and with big quantity of coils, than secondary.
Secondary - it is more in diameter also it is executed by thicker wire. Coils I have counted an order 7-8. We will accept 10 coils.
Then the primary will have an order of 100 coils.

flathunter

Quote from: Yucca on July 20, 2009, 05:33:27 PM
But surely when you sum all of the little correctly phased push energies together then it will sum to the same as the energy in one big push?

I just think (at the moment) that resonance in itself cannot explain any OU behaviour, it's a good tool for harvesting many small pushes (if they're phased correctly).

Maybe I'm missing something here?

Maybe me too Yucca!  I was thinking the exact same thought about the swing.

The video that was posted by SH and Bolt, with the Russian guy and a tesla coil, illustrates your point perfectly.  Its just wireless transmission.  No OU.  I can do the same right here with a small lamp.  Perhaps Kapanadze and Donald Smith know something that I dont, but a lot of Donald smiths devices (for example, the dipole transformer generator) seem to be suggesting that any (magnetically???) resonating coil will give OU - and all you need to do to catch it is have a capacitor plate at right angles to the magnetic field - this will generate more power than input, as it will catch the heaviside component.  Thats what i read anyway. 

At the moment, i'm not convinced....but i'll certainly keep trying as its lots of fun!

I want to add a doorknob capacitor to my tesla coil primary to increase the capacitance.  I have a polypropylene one already in there.  Is this OK to do??

bolt

Alike Don Smith that has made some 40 systems and a dozen patents what you see in the video doesn't necessarily reflect to the patent. However, all the systems are strongly related to each other. Once observed and fully understood the transfer mechanism on each design you will even be able to draw your own circuits.

For a start the spark gap in the video is jumping about 2 mm i guess this is only about 1500 volts. There is no where near enough joules to do anything with this therefore inside that box is yet another conversion to higher volts before the external coil is seen outside. So although the ground system is Step Down 10:1 this is converting the system voltage and frequency response of ground ELF to 50Hz and further still the video is an ELF ground differential magnetic amplifier and requires  push push balance of two earth points between water pipe and the cooler. So the patent like Don Smith is for another similar system but not the video version.

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on July 20, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
Hmm, have your ever read Kapanadze`s patent ?

The diagram clearly indicates the discussed coil to be a step-down transformer (see attachment)
Furthermore describes the patent phase and frequency correction stages after the main transformer to be directly given onto the feedback to the source and the output. There is no mention of further transformers.

In his old video a guy measures 28 Amps in the line to the lamps.
That matches 5KW only when his output voltage is 230 Volt.

That is my whole point. If he had 50 kV in there then the patent (esp. diagrams) is completely wrong

But if Kapanadze ever clearly stated the entirety of his device we would not speculate about it in this thread  ;)

Viktor Grieg assesses in his document: